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Merc 4" Crank Damage

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rgrhoward, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. rgrhoward
    Joined: May 20, 2010
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    Looking at picking up a few 8BA's from a fellow HAMBER. Also a 4" MERC Crank with a little damage. Please see the pics below, not a deal breaker if it can't be repaired but we are both curious.

    Fixable? or Yard art?

    Thanks in advance.
     

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  2. hard to see , is that a crack in the first picture?
     
  3. 51 MERC-CT
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    Was probably that way from the factory. Only one way to know for sure, have it balanced.
     
  4. Ford Guy
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    looks like a crack to me:(
     
  5. rgrhoward
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    I am guessing a crack = yard art.
     
  6. Flatheadfreddy
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    This is standard I think it is where the sprue was attached. I have several just like this.
    Freddy
     
  7. Bruce Lancaster
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    I think that is simply where casting sprue was broken away...this was a delicate operation done by an experience machinist with a sledge hammer.
    If worried, take that area down to shiny with a body grinder and examine surface, if real worried have it fluxed.
     
  8. Roger53
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    It's the way there made if I was better at this puter thing I'd post some pic's.
     
  9. Bruce Lancaster
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    To translate...that is the bottom of the hole where melted Model T's and surplus Sherman tanks were poured into the hole. When the crank was pulled out, that site was a pillar of iron made so it was narrowest at that level and would so break right there. Someone then smacked the pillar with a hammer and sent it back to the foundry to be re-melted, and the carnk went off to be machined.
     
  10. #1 Kawboy
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    Well put, Bruce.
     
  11. bobss396
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    It looks like a parting plane in the casting. As long as it doesn't look it was caused by something broken internally (hammered to ****..), you should be okay.

    Bob
     
  12. Have it checked by a very qualified engine machinist.

    A. Magnafluz inspection for cracks.
    B. Check for straightness.
    C. Inspect and mic all journals.

    I have all the specs if you need them.

    I agree with the sprue theory.
     
  13. R Pope
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    I have half a dozen Merc cranks and they all look like that. No worrys!
     
  14. brad2v
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    I'll be damned! I'm the current owner of the aforementioned crank (although rgrhoward and I have a deal in the works). The crank was sold to me as NOS, I didn't look it over real well, got it home, saw that, and relegated it to the 'deal with later' pile. Very interesting. Oh well, buy high, sell low I always say.
     
  15. flatjack
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    Yup, as stated, they all look that way.
     
  16. rgrhoward
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    Thanks for all the info guys. Learn something new everyday.

    Only hope i can p*** on this knowledge someday.
     
  17. fiveohnick2932
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    from Napa, Ca.

    Looks fine to me unless there is a crack in there that didnt com through in the pics. Run it!
     
  18. Atwater Mike
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    If you're going to have it 'checked' or machined, have them shot peen it first. (then magna flux)

    I've always shot-peened 4" cranks. Ak Millar and Ray Brock were staunch advocates...
    I apprenticed in a Ford/Mercury shop.
    (never seen excessive breakage in flathead cranks, but there were lots of 'Y' blocks that broke 'em...239, 272, 292, 312...)
     
  19. 40FordGuy
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    Easiest thing is take it to your local reliable machine, or balancing shop. They'll give you the straight poop.

    4TTRUK
     

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