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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ilari, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Ilari
    Joined: Oct 30, 2009
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    I bought this with model a body and cannot find out where it came from. It seems to be from the mid or late 30´s and may be from some luxury make, not Ford anyway.
    I know someone here can help me out with this one. :)
     

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  2. RMR&C
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    from NW Montana

    Looks GM to me.......maybe Buick or Olds?
     
  3. squirrel
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    1934 date might tell you something, eh?
     
  4. I agree with RNR&C

    I don't think I would have any trouble making ti work with a model A and it does sweep nice, I would clean up all the parallel leaf stuf on the fron and leave the horns put your spring mount at the top of the sweep. Dow whatever is necessay to the rear and naorrow anything that was needed and slam the coupe body on it.
     
  5. A. O. Smith company made the frame, and it is likely a Caddilac.
     
  6. Don's Hot Rods
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    I went on line and looked at some frame drawings from that era and it does look GM ish to me. I was thinking Pontiac or Olds. The Caddy ones seem to have coil spring pockets welded onto them that yours doesn't. If it was made in late 34 it probably was for some 35 car.

    I agree with ******, use those siderails and narrow it up to fit under your A. It looks longer than an A frame, but that can be dealt with too. It would make a great looking frame with that sweep and downward horns.

    Don
     
  7. Ford blue blood
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    AOS in Milwaukee made frams for a bunch of manufacturers including Ford and Chrysler in addition to GM. My uncle worked there for his entire working life and retired in the 60s. It looks to have had parallel rear leaf and beam axle front?
     
  8. Old Dude
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    I agree, it looks like Caddy to me.
     
  9. anteek
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    Bet $.02 that it is '34 plymouth , dodge or other mopar. The gastank cover/reinforcement,the crossmember design make me say this.LWB car with independant front.
     
  10. Ford blue blood
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    Had a 34 Plymouth once, the front cross member is not correct for the independant front end for 33 - 34.
     
  11. Ilari
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    Yes, it's a lot longer than my a-frame. I will probably use it later on, I've been collecting parts for next build. Haven't even finished the last. :D
    I was told that it was sold as 34 frame, probably according to that stamp.
    It's interesting frame, well build and actually we were thinking that the front used to have parallel leafs also.
     
  12. need louvers ?
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    Ya, but I'm pretty sure Plymouth made a shorter car that year that used a beam axle and parrallel leafs... That what I was thinking it was when I saw it too. Didn't they do a PC series and a PD?
     
  13. RMR&C
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    I have a '34 plymouth, and it doesn't match....that was my first thought too. The tank cover is similar.
    I had a '34 Buick too, it looks much closer to that. Still just guessing though...

    EDIT ...The buick had IFS now that I think about it, but the design is still really similar.
     
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  14. 40FordGuy
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    Dad owned a 33 Plymouth, and it came with parallel front springs, with straight axel. Rear was also parallel leaf springs.

    4TTRUK
     
  15. rpivinton
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    Looks like a '34 Chevy Master frame to me. I don't see any evidence of parallel springs in front, this was the first year of Chevy's 'Knee-Action" independent front suspension. Notice the doubled channels at the front of the frame to add strength, which are an extension of the K-member. Also the front bumper mount is a giveaway, and without walking out to the shop to look for sure, the rear tank cover looks Chevy, too.
    Bud
     
  16. mlagusis
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    I agree with 40FordGuy.

    What ever it is it looks like a good frame to start with.
     
  17. Ilari
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    It seems not to be a Buick frame:
    http://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f169/114802d1327009876-x-frame-history-help-1934-20buick-06.jpg
    Not Chevy:
    http://forums.aaca.org/f119/1934-chevrolet-frame-284156.html
    Not Plymouth:
    http://www.hotrodders.com/cl***ifieds/data/21/70612register_004-large.jpg
    Not Cadillac:
    http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2010/04/21/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1934-cadillac-ch***is/

    There may be model based differencies and can´t tell if the pictures in the links are correct, but this seems not to be easy. I did not find picture of Olds frame.

    However it seems to be a nice frame to start something, but it would be good to know what the heck it is..
     
  18. Ilari
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    I already have my A in driving condition, here´s someone´s picture from one of past summers meeting(captured from internet). I have a boxed and Z´d original frame, extended to fit 39 Ford rear. I would now do it a slightly different way, but it´s my first build..
     

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  19. Don's Hot Rods
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    I think you are right. Look at the first frame in this link. The gussets and K member look very similar.

    Don

    http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1934/34crm104.htm

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  20. Ilari
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    That´s it, thanks for the help! :)
    My first thought was that it must be something else than Chevy, but Chevy it is. Nice frame´s they did back then and this one is in really good shape.
    So in this model there was parallel leafs in front?
     
  21. Don's Hot Rods
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    No, I think it had the knee action front end, and I know very little about it other than (I think) it was sort of a coil spring setup, except the coils were replaced by shocks that had some suspension system built into them. The coil springs were inside the shock ***emblies.

    Someone on here will know more, I'm sure. I had a 40 Master Deluxe years ago and some of those had knee action but luckily mine had regular coil spring front suspension.

    Don
     

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