So I had the post named "can you have a coil AND points and now I am starting to think that it was not either one. I am starting to think that this might be a starter issue all along. You see it cranks the engine for like 1-1 1/2 seconds and then it sounds like just the electric motor on the starter spins, I let off of the starter right then, allow the starter motor sound to "wind down" and stop, repeat, same thing. Well I HAD thought that when the starter changed sounds like that it was due to the motor attempting to fire but just not for long enough for me to notice. Well I was out there just now and it seems like the amount of time the starter actually turns the motor before it goes to the starter motor only sound is getting less and less, and that's when it hit me!!! The starter doing that CAN NOT be due to the motor attempting to fire 'cause I had knocked the main ignition wire loose from the coil while putting the cap on and temporarily did not know where that wire went, well I tried it then, WITH NO ignition wire going to ANY of my coil ect (made sure of that fact with a test light) and the starter did the SAME weird noise/ giving up on turning the motor over thing. Soo, now that I have a brand new ignition system soup to nuts....How do I check my starter! lol...My bad...lol
Third vote for the starter drive being more than tired I'd pull it out and rebuild or have the starter rebuilt with a new drive.
'49 Packard, Deluxe Eight, inline eight 4.7ltr (288) 80% original including the starter looks like. Also, if it matters, it is a 6v POSITIVE ground car. Thanks for any help. Is the bendix spring what keeps it in there against the flexplate/flywheel (always get those two mixed up, which one does a standard have again) putting in work/ Or the other drive thing that bob mentioned?
I think a starter is a starter basically, and that they screw up in the same ways, so any tips are still good.
On it, I have a local starter/alternator shop, I will drop it off first thing Monday. Anyone know about what that usually runs, ballpark?
Thanks, the more people that tell me the same thing the more I believe them! Is the starter drive and the bendix the same thing or no? Steve
The starter drive is attached to the bendix. If its the same as the last Packard I worked on it pulls from the back side into the flywheel. The bendix attaches to the drive and ***ists the gear to pull it out of the flywheels with engine rpm
Get a 8 Volt Battery & set up Voltage regulator to charge the 8 volt. Back in the Day, I did this to most Old 6 Volt Positive Ground Cars. You may not be getting enough juice to it to stay engaged ! Do not jump start with 12 volt, you will burn up points, and posibly the Starter !
DO NOT DO THIS 8v. ****...IDIOTS!!! It ain't the problem. As said many times above...replace starter drive! DD
DD, dropped it off to be rebuilt first thing Monday. Thanks TO ALL! I have been thinking about adding another 6v battery in Parallel so as to have more CCA to go with my fresh starter...that ought to spin that biotch!
That car came from the factory and worked perfectly-well for MANY years with ONE 6v battery, as designed. The smartest thing you can do is to religiously go through ALL of your battery cables and starter-related circuits and parts. Make sure that the 6v battery cables are of the proper (larger gauge than most 12v replacement cables) size to carry a 6v load. Secondly, make absolutely sure that ALL wire/cable attachment points (including GROUNDS) are to CLEAN and BARE metal...NO painted or rusted surfaces. Also make sure all connections are TIGHT. It would be good to also apply the above info to all the wiring in your STARTER-related circuitry. Make sure connections are squeeky-clean and tight at your starter switch. 6 volt stuff WILL work well if ya pay attention to the above suggestions. 8 volt batteries and parallel batteries are BAND-AID fixes for deeper problems. If you'll ***ure yourself of sound circuitry as described above, and with a PROPERLY re-built starter and starter drive (and ***uming teeth on flywheel show no real damage), that ol' Packard engine should spin it's *** off. Good luck, and keep us up-dated on progress. DD
Thanks for making sure that I am not doing any African Engineering on there, when I was a teen I once drove my '74 Charger with a broken throttle cable for like a week till I got paid with a small rope going thru the firewall and TIED on the side of the carb PULLED BY HAND FOR GO! I would even give it to the person in the back seat, and let them do the "haul ***" (IT HAD A BUILT 440 OUT OF A PLOW TRUCK WITH A CARB BIGGER THAN A PAPER PLATE!!!) part, and just "ride it out" accordingly! (kinda unsafe-ish...) The teeth on the Packard flywheel and starter gear were the first thing that I checked and they look freakin' new! The Battery cables are the OE best I can tell and are way thicker then the ones in my 12V 2500 truck. As for the connections and ALL WIRE ends under the hood, I have been going thru them one at a time with my dremil and a small fine wire wheel about the diameter of a quarter and made them all look new! I am NOT screwing around OR taking any short cuts on this (OR ANY) car. Still, please mention any steps that yall feel are important as I may not know that one. Also it will be good for any FNG's reading this post in the future. thanks again, I will keep yall posted.
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