Will you buy a car from a non-title state?

Ohio is not that hard if you know the trick. Which is, to claim you lost the title and let them inspect the VIN and check their records the same as NY. Just omit that you bought it this week from a non-title state. I know because I sold a car to a guy in Ohio and I emailed their BMV and asked. Here again it's not going to work on a big money, shiny, ready to drive car, but it will work on a project car.

 

T

Oh sureeeeeee !
Hello Mrs. DMV dumb ass,
I lost the title for this car I've never owned,
can I have another please ?

Ohio title is 100% positive proof of ownership!
Period end of story

You won't get an Ohio title unless there is proof that whoever you got it from owned it.
Sworn affidavit from the seller is one way but there needs to be some proof to back up the claims on the affidavit.

 

Yes,My self and a friend have done the no paperwork NY thing many times.Not junkyard vehicles but older stuff bought with no paperwork.Like Rusty NYer says,you have to know the system,know how to be nice to the DMV clerk and works best at rural DMV offices.Stand up straight,normal appearance,look em right in the eye,some pleasant small talk but not much sucking up.DMV has heard every story there is so don't try to bullshit them.

There can be problems of course like trying to do this on a 68 Ferrari ...and I hear the state gets suspicious of anything called a Harley Davidson..

 

Bullshit. You can't lose a title you never had. They only duplicate a title that is already in the system - with the owners name/info already on it. Ohio is a major pain in the ass when it comes to out of state cars. Anymore, I won't touch anything without a title.

 

I could if I believed that nothing on it could be traced back to a theft. Missouri is funny, some non title states they just look at and say sure everything is hunky dory and others they get real finicky about.

 

Bought a 53 Chev out of Alabama a few years ago and it came with a registration and bill of sale from the dealer ... Texas DOT accepted it without incident and DPS inspected the vehicle to confirm VIN. It was very easy.

 

I had to help a friend in Ohio get a title for a car he bought from a non-title state on a bill of sale. OH wouldn't do it, so he thought Broadway Title could get him a title, but they returned his application and check because they don't do business in Ohio.

Since I'm in WV I took care of it by using Broadway to process the bill of sale into a title (IIRC it was from AL), then a state trooper came out and checked the VIN and hidden numbers, after that I was able to get a WV title and transfer that to the real owner in OH.

 

Not in Wisco, no way.... Was going to buy a sweet little rust free (and I mean totally rust free) '62 Falcon 2 door from a co-worker last year, Alabama car, no title, just bill of sale, and super cheap.....I ended up passing only cuz I've done the Wisconsin DMV missing title "circle jerk" before.....it totally sucks here.
Tom

 

Ma. has a thing about cars from Ny. It is a question that they ask.

I suspect that someone got a hold of some old blank title forms that they don't use anymore and use them to title your car. It's just my thought, I don't have any information to back it up, but there is a guy that can find a title that matches your car and VIN from his collection of old titles. ( For people that collect old copies of titles and documents of course!)

 

In CT there are no titles for cars before 1984. I have registered old cars & no title is issued. I can buy a car out of state go to DMV with all paperwork, ins card ,title & they just throw the title away! -crazy! When I sell a car that goes out of state,I have a notorized bill of sale & a copy of the CT statuche document that states the ct dmv guidlines. That helps with out of state dmv`s for the people trying to reg their cars. It is luck of the draw at any dmv.
I sold 2 cars to 2 different guys in Cali recently with bill of sales & the doc. One guy had no problem,the other they broke his balls & then he called me & broke my balls! I simply explained all this again & said just go to a different dmv & give it a shot. He finally did & had no problems. Its crazy because there is no common system the states go by,its completely different from state to state. Luckilly here in Ct its not to hard. Its the ONLY thing that isnt.

 

In Kansas it's easy if the car is 35 years old

 

I'm in Connecticut and a title has NEVER stopped me from buying or selling a vehicle.

 

well i live in alabama and im glad we are a no title state. ive bought cars out of barns, feilds and anywhere else you can think of. and not one had a title.ive never had a problem gettin tags for any of them. all they ask for is a bill of sale and the last registration. that part is almost imppossble. but some how we always get by that part. my daily driver is a 62 ford galaxie that a friend bought out of a barn where it had sat for over 20 yrs. no papaer work. nothing. i got a biill of sale from him took it to the dmv and the car. they checked the vin and binmgo i leave with tags.now sellin cars without titles to other states , all we ver done is sign a bill of sale and give them the last registration papers we have and they leave. never had anyone call us back saying theres a problem

 

My roadster came from Ala. ( a non title state at the time, I think that changed but am not sure of the cut off date that they went to titles ) Bill of sale and last registration was all I need for a Florida title, an had to have the numbers checked by DMV too. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. I do live by the state line, so it it common around here. I was thinking (there I go again) that all states honour other state laws. Yes, I have gone round and round with the clerks at the title office, but they were just covering themselfs. A 67 Camaro comes to mind. Sold from Ala to a dude in Florida and he sold it to me with out doing the paper work. DMV wanted me to have a title issued to the person I got the car from, then he would sign over a Florida title to me. That takes time and money, so I found the old Ala. owner and he signed over the paper work to me and we left out the guy that I got the car from. Went back to DMV the next day and got the same clerk again, she was pissed, but I had everything the law required.

 

...Title never stop me from buying a car from out of state

 

Same thing here in Rhode Island...........Titles are not issued or required for cars ten years old or older.
Trying to get the old reg. is the issue.

 

I bought a 1937 Olds in Florance Alabama and a 1940 Chevy truck in columbus mississipi, din't got any problem here in Illinois.

 

In my state it's super simple....if you don't have a valid title, they won't issue a new title in your name...period.
The exception is getting a bonded title but that takes 5 years to get.

 

PA is a bitch,even with PA cars with no title

 

I'd buy as long as the price was reflected by the lack of a title. Just like a car that comes with all the chrome, and the same car where I have to hunt it all down. The more I get the more I'll pay. The '31 A coupe I'm working on buying, I'm willing to pay a bunch more since he has a current title in hand. Keith

 

Since I currently live in California there's no way I'd buy a car without a title, the DMV here is awful, just awful.

 

another hell no from the state of ohio....any questionable paperwork at all and you are shot down in flames ....with a state troope knocking on your door

 

I bought my coupe in VA which came with a title, registered it in NY and the NY DMV took the title, said 'thanks' and said I will receive a registration in the mail. You don't receive a title for older than '72 I believe in NY.

Felt strange they took my clear title signed over from the previous owner and handed me back just a registration. Fortunately I made a copy of the VA title before going to DMV. NYS is strange and I am sure when I sell it if the buyer is from out of state they may question it, but there is no worry.

I would buy a car from a non-title state.

 

This is one of the things I am curious about. And just to clarify, the car I am selling is not a project car. It's complete and drivable, with current AL registration and insurance. But, it does not, and cannot, ever have a title here unless Alabama changes the title laws.

I totally understand that the price would have to be much lower for a car that CAN be titled, but doesn't have one. The same rules on that apply for any state, I imagine. I know I wouldn't pay much for a car with no title, that should have one. Around here, that's a parts car.

But, if you have a million-dollar AMBR winner, that is based off a pre-75 (or is it `73?) vehicle, it won't have a title in Alabama; unless it is titled as "special construction" or something like that, which will make it a current year vehicle.

I can see that a lot of people just wouldn't want to deal with it at all. But I was curious if some folks would see the price and think it was too high because of either, the hassle of registration in their state, or assuming that it was a "missing title" situation instead of a "not possible to have a title" situation.

I just want to cover all my bases and make sure the buyer doesn't have to deal with a bunch of crap if they buy a car from here.

Thanks for all the replies, keep 'em coming.

 

The tag agents in Oklahoma KNOW which states are non-title states, and they know when you are trying to BS them about it. Several years ago, I bought a Georgia-registered car (no title required). When they did the VIN inspection, the car still had the GA tag on it, along with the registration. No problems at all!

Guaranteed, they WILL run the VIN through the Oklahoma system to see where it came from. If you try to lie about the origins of that vehicle, chances are very good in OK that you will be nailed.

Keep in mind, EVERY State's DMV (or equivalent) knows what states require titles and which do not!!! All have a listing of this information, so all they have to do if refer to that list and they'll know immediately.

 

The Oklahoma laws changed significantly the end of August. It is now a pretty big pain in the ass to get something untitled that's from a title state, titled in Oklahoma.

 

For the record, sometimes the state in question is less than helpful in this regard. For example, I purchased a titled car out of state. I jumped through all the hoops, paid the fees and filled out the paperwork in triplicate, but my state, which only reequires a bill of sale for vehicles over 12 years old, refused to issue a title for my O/T car as it was "too old to garner a title", regardless of the fact that I had the original title form the state I purchased it in and what if I wanted to sell it out of state in the future?! Now I don't have a title for a titled car. fucktards.
sorry, rant over.

 

What NY is ticklish about is Sales Tax. If you low ball the selling or purchase price, they will give you a hassle because they wsnt thier pound of flesh. If your reported price is within reason, and you pony up the check to the tax folks everything is pretty easy at least for pre 72 iron. Unless you are dealing with a car on the Popular Stolen cars top ten. Then they make you have the car inspected by the half retired and half crazy troopers at an auto theft taskforce inspection station, and oh by the way they charge you $200.00 or so for the privilege of dealing with the fine folks waiting for their retirement, or working through their on the job disability claim there. Cranky ba$t@rd$ the lot of them.

 

South Carolina is one of the more anal states to deal with if you don't have a title or anything registration related. My vote hell no!

 

For your poll to be accurate there should be a few categories,

1 No title from a no title state
1a with current registration and insurance (sure)
1b no current registration. (PITA and costly so it better be worth it)

2 no title from a title state. ( its parts and that's it)