Register now to get rid of these ads!

Bootleggers and Whiskey Runners: The Cars That Gave Us Nascar

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Scotch Buzzard King, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. I've been looking everywhere, and I can't find any pictures of the old cars used for bootlegging and whiskey running. I've got an old '55 Chevy car that I'm just itching to beef up like they did when they were running hooch, but I can't find any pictures of any cars used for the back woods trade. If you've got some pictures, don't be shy. We're all friends here. :D
     
  2. bigbob55
    Joined: Mar 19, 2010
    Posts: 807

    bigbob55
    Member
    from Pittsburgh

    Theres a car movie called Moonshine Hiway that has a 55 2 dr HT tanker in it (along with a 53 Lincoln) The thing to remember about movies is they are fiction.....it really doesn;t mean what is in the movie was like it was in real life
     
  3. spiderdeville
    Joined: Jun 30, 2007
    Posts: 1,134

    spiderdeville
    Member
    from BOGOTA,NJ

    willie clay call opened a museum exibit
    One of Wilkes County’s best known former moonshiners dies at 73

    Posted on: 8:26 pm, August 7, 2012, by Joe Borlik
    <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:bottom; white-space:nowrap;zoom:1;">



    </td><td style="vertical-align:middle; white-space:nowrap;zoom:1;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="gig-button-td"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction1-left">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction1-icon" style="zoom:1;vertical-align:middle;text-align:left;background-repeat:repeat-x;">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction1-right">
    </td></tr></tbody></table>

    </td><td>
    90​
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td style="vertical-align:bottom; white-space:nowrap;zoom:1;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="gig-button-td"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction2-left">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction2-icon" style="zoom:1;vertical-align:middle;text-align:left;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction2-text" style="vertical-align:middle;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">Pinterest
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction2-right">
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td>
    0​
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td style="vertical-align:bottom; white-space:nowrap;zoom:1;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="gig-button-td"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction3-left">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction3-icon" style="zoom:1;vertical-align:middle;text-align:left;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction3-text" style="vertical-align:middle;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">Share
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction3-right">
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td>
    93​
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td style="vertical-align:bottom; white-space:nowrap;zoom:1;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="gig-button-td"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction4-left">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction4-icon" style="zoom:1;vertical-align:middle;text-align:left;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction4-text" style="vertical-align:middle;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">Twitter
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction4-right">
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td>
    3​
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    </td><td style="vertical-align:bottom; white-space:nowrap;zoom:1;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction5-left">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction5-icon" style="zoom:1;vertical-align:middle;text-align:left;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction5-text" style="vertical-align:middle;background-repeat:repeat-x;background-image:url('http://cdn.gigya.com/gs/i/shareBar/button/buttonCenterImgUp.png')">Email
    </td><td id="componentDiv19087218-reaction5-right">
    </td></tr></tbody></table>

    </td></tr></tbody></table>



    [​IMG] At a 2009 gathering, Millard Ashley, Willie Clay Call and Junior Johnson (from left) swapped stories. In his later years, Call had served as a link to the past. (Credit: David Rolfe/JOURNAL)

    WILKESBORO, N.C. &#8212; One of Wilkes County&#8217;s best-known former moonshiners was buried Monday.
    The Winston-Salem Journal reported that Willie Clay Call of North Wilkesboro died Friday at his home. He was 73.
    He died a farmer, but back in the day, Call ran moonshine like his father and grandfather and his lifelong friend, Junior Johnson, who was an honorary pallbearer at his funeral.
    Back in the 1960s, Call liked to take his 1955 Ford out on the North Wilkesboro Speedway during practice.
    &#8220;Story he always told people was he outran Fred Lorenzen on several occasions while out practicing,&#8221; said Steve Wilson of the preservation group Save the Speedway, according to the Journal.
    Call and Johnson lent a car and copper still to the Reynolda House Museum of American Art for an exhibit on moonshining in 2002. Call provided a car for filming when the Wilkes Playmakers needed video footage as part of a play about Johnson.
    And he provided moonshining items for the Wilkes Heritage Museum in the old county courthouse.
    Read more: The Winston-Salem Journal.
     
  4. Sphynx
    Joined: Jan 31, 2009
    Posts: 1,141

    Sphynx
    Member
    from Central Fl

    Say it aint so !
     
  5. Hahaha
     
  6. About ten years ago, I was watching a documentary with an older bootlegger, and he pointed out what they would do to any car they used. The best that my memory serves me he said that they reinforced all four corners. They would beef up the bumper supports and add an extra one to the inside of each fender and quarter panel to prevent the sheet metal from piercing the tire in the event of an impact. He also said that because of the added weight of the moonshine, they would use wagon springs for that model of car and add another leaf or two accordingly. He also said that engine swaps were a must and that the Olds rocket was a favorite up until the Hemi and SBC came out. His personal favorite was the Hemi. He stressed in the interview that keeping the car all stock in appearance was an absolute must as to not raise suspicion by anyone. This all sounds like sound advice. If I'm forgetting anything, let me know.
     
  7. Gator
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,016

    Gator
    Member

    Here's a good article in Hot Rod magazine:

    Moonshiners history

    But I think the idea of some of the cars is somewhat 'romanticized'. The typical Moonshiner's car would have been a large car, with much heavier springs in place so the rear didn't sag when loaded (figure roughly 10 extra pounds per gallon of whiskey, including the containers) The cars would have been as nondescript as possible, to avoid attracting attention.

    Here's one of the cars from the article, a '61 Chrysler New Yorker.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Its the ultimate sleeper. They're just not called as such. It's really bad ass. You wouldn't know what you were looking at unless you were told what it is.
     
  9. Check out THUNDER ROAD with Robert Mitchum - 1958.
     
  10. I've got some movies to watch this weekend, gents. :D
     
  11. Rocky Famoso
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
    Posts: 3,000

    Rocky Famoso
    BANNED

  12. Rocky Famoso
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
    Posts: 3,000

    Rocky Famoso
    BANNED

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4J2meU1F7go" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  13. cool. I'll watch this.
     
  14. hotrod40coupe
    Joined: Apr 8, 2007
    Posts: 2,561

    hotrod40coupe
    Member

    '40 Coupes were a favorite. Light weight and reakky big trunks...
     
  15. k9racer
    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
    Posts: 3,091

    k9racer
    Member

    A good source on the HAMB is Hot Rod Elvis who helps run the Dawsonville Ga racing hall of fame.. He was very good friends with the most famous owner/bootlegger the late Mr Raymond Parks. Maybe we can get him to come on this thread and tell us a few of the stories he knows. A fact in N Ga and all of Alabama and Mississippi no one ran a car with a tank. Stainless is heavy and few had the know how and equipment to weld up one. Plus if caught with a empty tank you still went to jail. Most used mason jars with straw around the jars to keep them from moving and or breaking. In the area around Atlanta most used Coke a Cola 1 or 5 Gal tins. The packed these in sleaves and could hall over 200 gal in a 39 Ford. As the years went on the drivers called "Trip Boys" and car owners would buy later model cars to blend in with traffic. This is from personal knowelge and Neal Thompsons book on Whiskey/and racing.. Bobby.
     
  16. Deuce Roadster
    Joined: Sep 8, 2002
    Posts: 9,519

    Deuce Roadster
    Member Emeritus

    Most real moonshine cars were just plain ole cars. :confused:
    4 doors, station wagons or whatever.

    The reason was that they changed cars often ... to throw the FEDS off.
    Most haulers just hauled ... 50/75/ to 100 quarts of moonshine and it was in Mason jars ... not a tank.
    Or at least that is the way it was in the Carolinas where I live.

    .
     
  17. Rocky Famoso
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
    Posts: 3,000

    Rocky Famoso
    BANNED

    A '40 Ford like Junior's was just a plain ole car in the late '40s to '50s.
    .
     
  18. k9racer
    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
    Posts: 3,091

    k9racer
    Member

    In Popcorn Suttons book "me and my liker" he said he used a 1943 willis jeep. A 53 Ford conv with a 52 Merc flathead with 2 stromburg 97 carbs. He wrecked this car when he hit a tree. He said " I shit teeth for a week". He sold the engine to a cousin who put it a 48 ford truck. His next car was a 63 Ford 390 with a 3 speed and over drive and dash mounted cut outs. That way he could kick up lots pf dust on a dirt road.............................................................................................. Mr. Parks started out with a T model then later 31 A model Ford. Then as his operation got larger he moved many different types of cars in and out of service............................ A great place to take a trip and learn about trip cars come to the Dawsonville Ga. Moonshine festival in Oct every year. Lots of old trip cars.and race cars.............................................................. And more 39/40 Ford that you will ever see at one time................................................................................................. a couple years Miss Hurst Linda Vaughn was their selling posters. She is from that area {Dalton} and knows more about Moonshine than most people would think.
     
  19. I'll be damned. This is all good to know. I was talking to a buddy of mine some years back who told me that when he was a kid, there was a moonshine hauler from his town who got pulled over and busted when his car appeared to be overloaded in the ass end at 3 in the morning. He said when that guy got back from prison that Johnny Law kept a close eye on him, but prison had wised this fellow up. He started driving around at 3 in the morning with his car overloaded with bricks in the ass end. My buddy told me that the cops pulled him over about a half a dozen times during this period but only found those bricks in his trunk. Once the cops stopped pulling him over, he started running shine again.
     
  20. 36tbird
    Joined: Feb 1, 2005
    Posts: 1,169

    36tbird
    Member

    At some museum, maybe it is in Dawsonville, I heard that there was a '40 Ford Sedan Delivery that was used to run 'shine. This interested me because I own a S/D that after a rebuild I plan on going to that Moonshine Festival, maybe next year. Anybody know of that S/D?
     
  21. ItsLUCKY
    Joined: Feb 4, 2005
    Posts: 112

    ItsLUCKY
    Member

  22. demonsix
    Joined: Dec 31, 2011
    Posts: 85

    demonsix
    Member

    I love "Moonshine Highway". I wish they would release it on DVD
     
  23. Rocky Famoso
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
    Posts: 3,000

    Rocky Famoso
    BANNED

    Thunder Road (1958) - FULL MOVIE
    .
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5wd_TX_zPrM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    .
     
  24. 30 A truck
    Joined: Jan 12, 2011
    Posts: 30

    30 A truck
    Member

    My 34 Fordor was confiscated in 1959 by the state of S.C. for running shine. Kept for 10+ years & sold at public auction about 1971. Put in a barn in 1973. I got it out in 2010. It had a later model flat head & no back seat. Suposedly had a tank where back seat went.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.