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1930 Model A... Bringing it back to life

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TULSA, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. TULSA
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    how much? I would think that could be damaging, just a few drops?
     
  2. B Ramsey
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    Yeah, the spark advance. 1/4 turn might be right. Try the gas in the cyl, as pinky said. Should at least try to fire.
     
  3. TULSA
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    how much?
     
  4. pinkynoegg
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    a squirt or two. wont hurt a thing. worse thing you will do if you add too much is flood it. like maybe half a water bottle cap full in each cylinder
     
  5. TULSA
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    Thanks. We will try that, just to see what is does.

    Since the plug is dry, what could keep the gas from getting to the engine? As stated above, we have gas moving through the carb.

    Since it didnt turn over with starter fluid, could it be we have spark but not enough?
     
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    how did the gas in the cylinders do for her?
     
  8. TULSA
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    Well... I need a 6v battery charger, getting one in the morning.
     
  9. hemi gasser
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    Idle mixture screw should be turned out 1.5 turns from fully seated. to set float level turn the upper bowl with the hinge pin upside down and set float level for 1" measurement from float ring to carb body surface.
    Carb adjusting procedure according to Model a mechanic handbook is as follows
    1. Turn on fuel lever (under tank)
    2. Turn the gas adjusting knob (from inside car) to 3/4 turn open. Start engine and let it run until it reaches normal operating temperature.
    3.Close the gas adjusting knob between 1/4 and 1/8 turn open.
    4.Fully retard spark
    5.Advance the spark setting and set the idle adjust screw on the throttle shaft for desired idle speed.

    If you have no spark it could be a bad coil, bad condenser, bad ignition switch. Remember if it has the original popout style switch not to leave it in the on position when its not running or it will burn out.

    Preliminary ignition test
    1. Test for 6 volts at battery connection at starter
    2. Test for 6 volts at both terminal box wing nuts.
    3. Test for 6 volts at both coil terminals.
    4. Place a piece of paper between the point contacts in the distributor to keep points open.
    5. Turn on ignition switch and test for 6 volts on the open point arm.
    This will have checked all wiring connections from the battery to the points. If any test failed trace the fault to a disconnected or broken wire.

    Hope this helps
     
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  11. TULSA
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    Ok,

    New spark plugs just to freshen it up. put little gas in each cylinder, no luck firing up. We disconnected the exhaust from manifold. WHen I crank it and put my hand over the exhaust manifold I get more of a **** and very very little blow... probably none. Would that point to stuck valves? If so whats the best option to unstick?
     
  12. Mooseandsqurl53
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    Remember, it's an updraft carb. When cold you will need to choke it.
     
  13. Mooseandsqurl53
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    I forgot, when I first got mine, it did the same thing. Also acted like there was no compression. Took off the head and found 1 stuck valve. Tapped it with the handle of a hammer and it sprung back in, put the head back on and it started right up. Remember to choke, not much, mine needs about a second of choking and I open the choke and it fires right off.
     
  14. TULSA
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    Ok. We will pull head. Anything special I need to do with the distributor?when pulling head?
     
  15. TULSA
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    It has to be spark, valves all open and unstuck. We have sprayed starter fluid directly in, and also tried gas... nothing.

    We get spark but it seems week. I also noticed the shock by touching top of plug is alot weaker than the shock of touching cap (when off) and top of rotor.

    Thoughts on that?
     
  16. B Ramsey
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    You have battery hooked to positive ground, right?
     
  17. TULSA
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    Yes. It's grounded I think to trans or the trans crossmember

    Sent from my DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
     
  18. B Ramsey
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    No, I mean the positive terminal goes to ground.
     
  19. nice tudor! what are your plans for it?
     
  20. TULSA
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    Yeah... to the trans or to the crossmember
     
  21. TULSA
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    Not sure, need to get it running first. sell or trade it, or sell my poncho and keep this.
     
  22. B Ramsey
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    Try asking the guys over on fordbarn, they might help you better..
     
  23. B Ramsey
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    Nevermind, I see you did.
     
  24. B Ramsey
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    You really need to check compression with a guage. Report your findings. I would not do anything else till I did that.
     
  25. TULSA
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  26. pinkynoegg
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    did you put in a new set of points and gap them correctly?
     
  27. shtterbug8
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    omg this helped me today so much
     

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