Suspension guys ,33 pickup , here is a question with a pic

i just bought this 33 pickup and i would like to know where this part is from, (the large mounting bracket that links the leaf spring to the rear end) was that an aftermarket part? or taken from another car?

 

Need more pics!

 

wow 100 views and nobody knows

 

Need a better pic. spring end looks like stock perch but it's not.

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If you post a few pics from different angles
including the back side,
the powers of the HAMB's average in answering questions like these is
3.75 minutes

 

Looks like a little bit of ford and a little bit of home made, the nice forging that the spring is attatched to looks like the front of a 37-48 ish ford wishbone, the rest home made, hope that helps

 

Non stock axle. Spring perch looks like some part of a front wishbone. Shackle angle looks wrong. So-called radius rod looks like a tie rod.

It does not look like anything you would want to drive on.

I can tell that much from that pic, but lots more pics would be useful.

Mart.

 

I wouldn't be taking any long trips, or short ones on that setup.
Without front, inside and rear views of that mess it is hard to say anything but OUCH.
The spring perch is from a 35-48 front wishbone, I'm sure, and it looks like the dude who did that didn't notice the factory bow in the original 32-34 rear spring so he didn't match the perch to the spring eye causing a certain bind there.
Get some better pics and we'll see what else you have there.

Judging from this I'd have to say your PO of the truck, or the original builder if they are not the same, doesn't know their way around an early Ford suspension system so I'd damn sure check out every other life and death part of that vehicle, namely brakes and steering.

 

ok guys here you go, lets try to find out what this guy was doing here, i found out this is a rear end from a 80's ford ranger which originally had parallel leafs, they decided to go with transverse, The welds on the bracket to the rear end look good,. but the geometry looks a bit funky, what can i go to fix this?. and i also wanted to lower the rear 2" which i guess could be done with longer shackles but i dont know about this setup. Keep in mind this guy that had this drove it every weekend he could for 12 years, and it also p***ed anew york safety inspection earlier this year before i bought it.

 

looks homemade to me.

 

and yes there is a tie rod instead of a radius rod in first pic at the top of the page

 

OK, I'll jump in. It looks like a front axle spring hanger welded on and gusseted. Probably not what I would have done but I can't knock it since it has worked this long.
There are a number of weld on brackets to do just this job and if you get one with the hanger below the axle tube it will lower your truck said amount. I do believe the ones I used a while back were from Ch***is engineering. I like them a lot and they worked well would have to dig out the reciept come Monday to tell you for sure who made them. There are several Co's that make that style mounts to use stock springs.
The Wizzard

 

X2 on front spring hanger
37-48 range

What's that big triangle plate doing exactly

 

the big triangle is just a big gusset joining the rear end, tierod,spring pearch all in one shot

 

Welp.... that looks pretty out-and-out scary to me, shackles are at wonky angles, does it seriously just have a tie rod on either side to locate the axle!?? Yikes. Get someone who knows hot rod suspension to look at this truck in person before it becomes your coffin...

And a NY state "safety" inspection is nothing to brag about... those of us that live here know that as long as the car doesn't crash through the back wall of the shop when you pull in, you have a pretty decent chance of p***ing.

 

Yea, not the best idea and certainly not the slickest set up.
I'd be redoing that set up in short order.

 

so what should i do to make this safe and still keep the transverse setup?

 

Take it all out and buy or build quality parts and re do it.

 

Look at the rolling bones cars a see what they do. You can search on the hamb or on Google, these guys know their **** and they drive a bunch of miles. You can look at some of my 30 ford truck pictures, I coppied their front and rear suspension. It works great.

 

Get you one of these kits:



And one of these:

 

+1 great plan.

 

I don't think you need to get all carried away with re design, just clean up what's there to get the ride height you want. Like I mentioned, there are several guys making flame cut weld on brackets to do just what you want done and they are cheep. I would use the same rear axle housing and spring you have and just re do the hangers to get the ride height your after. I think it was just $45.oo for the brackets I bought 2 years ago. Any of what's there now and working I'd just leave alone.
The Wizzard

 

Where to get one of these?

 

there is some really nice stuff on your website, what does everyone th ink of this kit http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parallel-4-...DefaultDomain_100&hash=item3cc996cff6&vxp=mtr ???

 

I am NOT a 4 link fan for anything that's street driven most of the time. Also, that kit you listed does nothing for your buggy spring set up. ELpolacko's kit is hands down a better way to go than 4 link for your Truck.
The Wizzard

 

If you can find them in Canada, I'd use the 35/36 Ford rear trailing arms with the built on perches.

These mount under the rear axle tubes, on simple flat plates that you can make. The arms then bolt to those plates.

One benefit of the home made plates, is that the longer they hang down from the tube, the lower the car will sit.

You can pull a bunch of existing measurements off your setup with weight on the wheels, then you can figure in the corrections to make, to fix your shackle angles and fix your ride height.





and it will look a lot more old timey than those P&J bars

 

ok guys here you go, lets try to find out what this guy was doing here, i found out this is a rear end from a 80's ford ranger which originally had parallel leafs, they decided to go with transverse, The welds on the bracket to the rear end look good,. but the geometry looks a bit funky, what can i go to fix this?. and i also wanted to lower the rear 2" which i guess could be done with longer shackles but i dont know about this setup. Keep in mind this guy that had this drove it every weekend he could for 12 years, and it also p***ed anew york safety inspection earlier this year before i bought it.

So to get back to where you started all you need is to go to Speedway and look up part #916-45105 and for $44.99 plus shipping you can take care of your question and lower your truck a few inches. This is about as simple as you can make it.
The Wizzard

 

i'm thinking to go to a parallel leaf setup since this transverse leaf doesnt give me too much clearence to my axle housing when i will lower it

 

This makes no sense at all. A different rear spring system will have Zero effect on bell housing clearance.
The Wizzard

 

Pete & Jakes, Speedway, So-Cal