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GM HEI module for points

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Steve54ford, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Steve54ford
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  2. sunbeam
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  3. Steve54ford
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    What year of Chrysler?
     
  4. Steve54ford
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    what year chrysler?
     
  5. jack orchard
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    Yea, Sunbeam. What year Chrysler?....jack
     
  6. CutawayAl
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    Just so you know, you can buy a ready-made ignition module that does the same thing. MSD, Crane, Accel, and Mallory all offer proven units that can be triggered by points.
     
  7. sunbeam
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    Chrysler 4 or 5 pin modules were used in the 70s and 80s ether will work wired like the diagram.
     
  8. Hitchhiker
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    Another break out your check book rodder..... Why would you want to spend money when with a little time and ingenuity you could do it for free or cheap?
     
  9. CutawayAl
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    I didn't tell the guy what he should or shouldn't do. I simply made him aware that he didn't have to go the do-it-yourself route if he didn't want to.

    "check book rodder".... You don't know me or anything about me, so you are in no position to comment on what I think, or what I do or don't do. In fact, you couldn't be more wrong. Although I'm not sure it's something to brag about, I often make things that time and cost don't justify. Although there is a good case for not making what you can buy, I can't even guess how much time I have wasted making things I could/should have bought.

    To answer your question, the best reason for not doing this is unknown reliability. A commercially made unit is likely going to have the benefit of some testing and development as well as real world use by customers. The do-it-yourself option is a roll of the dice. Most people can't wire a car properly, or even install a radio without doing something iffy. People post here all the time asking questions that make it clear they don't understand much about electricity, let alone electronics. That being the case, I think even a simple electronics project is beyond the average rodder, especially one where saving a few dollars could leave them standing on the side of a remote country road, on a dark dark rainy night. Yes, this entire deal can be eliminated and the coil just triggered directly by the points. On the other hand, I wonder what percentage of people here actually know how to do that. Even if you can do this project to perfection doesn't mean everyone else can or should.
     
  10. Hitchhiker
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    Your ******* are getting bunched.


     
  11. CutawayAl
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    Whether or not that's true, you were out of line making ***umptions about me, and you weren't considering all factors. Instead of commenting about my underwear possibly you could respond to the points I made, or at least post something helpful or instructive.
     
  12. Just so you know, you can buy almost anything you you want.

    You can build anything you can imagine.

    What you can't buy is imagination.

    Asking or expecting someone with no imagination to imagine something is like asking the blind to see.

    checkbook rodders don't have imagination.
     
  13. Hitchhiker
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    Well, in my opinion everything you posted is a cop out for not trying to LEARN something. Just because you try and fail doesn't mean you shouldn't have tried. I would rather try and fail 3 times using cheap OE parts and learn something than buy a aftermarket kit. How the heck do you expect people to get better at things? Wiring is not rocket science. Building your own electronic ignition is not rocket science. Yes, sometimes its good to ask questions if you are unsure of things. Just because you ask a basic question, doesn't mean you aren't capable of accomplishing something.

    When I was 15 I attempted to rebuild the front end on my 67 pontiac. I had no clue what I was doing. I got it almost apart, but couldn't get the ball joints out. I had to pay someone to come do it for me. 15 years later I've done hundreds of front end rebuilds and I can do the job myself in a half a day or less.....My point is....I had to start somewhere.

    So instead of telling someone that they can/should just go out and buy it, maybe you should encourage them to take the plunge. it's just a old car. You really can't mess much up unless you are really being foolish.
     
  14. CutawayAl
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    I understand what you are saying, and I basically agree with what you said. The other side of that coin is; During the years I was a mechanic, at the two shops where I worked the longest I was the guy who diagnosed and fixed things other mechanics couldn't sort out. Based on that I know even a lot of professional mechanics are weak when it comes to electricity. For whatever reason a lot of people have trouble with the basic concepts and either can't ,or aren't willing to invest the effort, to learn. And, today more than ever, people want a fast and easy, spray on wipe off solutions for things. I don't despise people who are that way, I'm just not one of them.

    There is also the matter of where the line is drawn. If I fabricate an intake manifold, wire my car without a "kit', do my own show quality paint work, and build my own heavy-duty engine stand, does that mean I am cool and everyone who doesn't is a lazy check book rodder? Guys like George Barris, Alexander Brothers, Gene Winfield, Bill Hines, and Boyd Coddington built cars for people who either couldn't, or didn't want to, do what they could do. The fact they were doing work for customers takes nothing away from the cars they built. And, it doesn't diminish people like Bob Hirohata, Billy Gibbons, Tim Allen, Jay Leno, or anyone else, for not building those cars with their own hands.
     
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  15. sunbeam
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    Cutawayal
    How is Tim Allen or Jay Leno and others like them any different than a guy in a BMW showroon other than their tast in what they buy.
     
  16. 55 dude
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    OK guys if your all done put your **** away and maybe help the OP with his question.Oh i did see Walmart has a 2 for 1 sale on VAGASIL this week!
     
  17. outlaw256
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    well ive wired my shop and ive wired my sons house but i still get lost at times on automotive juices so i see what al was gettin at.and thanks 31 vickey for that link couldnt have come at a better time
     
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  19. CutawayAl
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    We were talking about hot rods. The only difference I see is that the BMW isn't a hot rod.
     
  20. CutawayAl
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    Just wondering, in what way was your post helpful to the OP?
     

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