How Rare and or How Valuable is the 1928 Model A Business Coupe w Oval Side Windows?

I mean in relation to the standard common models.
They are different and uncommon. A friend of mine has a lead on one and info is fairly obscure.

The condition is not really known, so I am not looking for a value on that particular car, more so a comparison of apples and apples to the others.

Like all being equal, if a roadster is worth 15K, a coupe is worth 13K, Tudor maybe 11K etc. THESE NUMBERS are for reference only.

Where does a Business coupe stand?

Here is a link of what they look like.

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=1928...ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:101&tx=166&ty=72

 

'round here we call them "Sport Coupes" and they're one of the lowest pricewise on the Model A pecking order.

 

Looks like someone personalized it by adding those oval windows from another make/model. Model A's never had those as far as I know.

 

Back to the books WPC type. Ford did made the business version of the sport coupe. Valued by restoration types but not so much my rodders. Ron

 

The '29 model 54A did....
http://www.modelaford.org/technical/bodystyles28-29closed.asp

 

As said above, it is factory.
Hmmm. maybe for a stocker it might be unique, but not really rod worthy.
Unless it is your cup of tea.

 

37,000 of the 29's. and 4,000,000 Model A's. So less than 1% had that body.

 

Post it on the Ford Barn. Model "A" experts on the Ford Barn Model "A" forum love this kind of stuff to discuss. It will go on for days.

 

No we don't - they are the 1929 only Business Coupe with the porthole windows. they pop up from time to time. I love them but others may not. The 1928 Buisness coupe didn't have the portholes....

 

Here's a killer 1928 Business Coupe with non original oval rear window, which I photographed around 1979/1980 in Merced which was parked next to Fat Jack's even more killer '29 full fendered roadster - this was what lead me to dream of hot rodding a '29 Porthole Business Coupe....

 

Only for 1929. But, ya know, if you had a 28 or 30/31 I bet a 56/57 T-bird port hole wouldn't look too bad at all, eh? Gary

 

I'd have to say he is correct. It would be a nifty car to show up at a national or regional Model A club of America with and have it fully restored. It wouldn't cause much excitement at a major rod run except with the Model A restores in the bunch.

 

I've been dragging my feet on building one for years now. Lowest on the pecking order is DEFINITELY your opinion and not that of most. One of the rarest '29's and quite a bit different than a Sport Coupe. I thought mine was a Sporty for years, but it's not.

They make really good looking Hot Rods too. Here's a few I had on the computer. I have alot more if anyone wants to see them.

 

The one in question has the oval side windows, like in the link I posted above.
Would you eliminate those windows?
All the ones you posted look really great, but none have the side gl***. What do you think of the side gl***ed ones?

 

This model is rare. If it is in decent shape why not keep it reasonably original? It actually depends on how far you are going on making it a rod or original.
I've always restored decent cars and rodded those already modified or costing too much to restore. Remember, they don't make em anymore like that one. And for those guys who said in other threads there were no three window coupes, there is a lot of proof in that Model A link.

 

I personally would not, mainly because I don't ever recall seeing one berfore. Maybe restore it, or do an early banger rod, and leave them?

The bad thing is that most car guys that don't study Model A's, would always say it has added windows off of something else.

 

Why would you want to remove the single most charismatic feature of the car????

 

I certainly would not, as others have mentioned, they make the car that much more unique. I wouldn't put them on a car that didn't have them, but I wouldn't remove them from one that did.

 

An early 1956 T-Bird !

 

I WOULDN'T remove them, I asked if he would because the ones he posted pics of were not the A that had the oval windows.

Does anyone have any pics of this particular model WITH the windows that is hot rodded, even mildly?

 

I also wanted to say they made 600 3- window '28 and '29's only, I got this figure searching online from a museum collector file on Smithsonian. It takes a little to get there, but if you're computer-savvy,you can pull it up. And all were painted black.

 

Ditto, fer sure. I had been looking for one for so long, but recently settled on a coupe. I may still make it a SC, who knows. Here are some pix I've randomly liberated. There may be a landau or other similar model in these, sometimes I get tricked! Gary

 

I kinda like them.

I almost pulled the trigger on this one last year. Decided not to at the last minute. It was going to take too much to unstreet rod it and turn it into a real hot rod.






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Just for the record not all business coupes had the oval windows. The business coupe body style started in the first half of 1928, I am thinking May. The oval window version did not start production until around March or April of 1929. All business coupes had trunks, not rumble seats. All sports couped had landua bars and rumble seats. Rod

 

Mine is a 1 of 600 February '29 car that was bought new in Knoxville, Tn. When I bought it, there was no top material, I ***umed it was a Sporty.

You know what happens when you ***ume.... The Ford Barn guys straightened me right out. The Sport coupes had bosses for the Landau bars, mine never had them. All that equals Business Coupe. Mine also did not have the oval windows. The Oval window cars had a different top bow.

Here's a few pics.

 

what is the difference between that and a sport coupe. is the roof steel under the vinyl..

 

Business coupe with porthole - Opera Coupe.

 

No steel under the top. Just think "Soft top that doesn't fold down". They have the same doors as a regular coupe (with door frames).

Sport Coupe's had Landau bars, Business or Opera Coupes did not. All the top bows are different between the three.

Look at the pictures of my car, that's what's under the soft top of a Business Coupe.

Here's a few pics of the most famous Sporty of all time, and Weesner's version.

 

From what I understand, you're talking about the Business Coupe..

 

^^^^^^
Correct, I said 28, but I think it must be a 29 but definitely a business coupe not a special coupe.
Can it be confirmed that if it is indeed a factory oval car, there should only be canvas and no steel or wood?