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Acrylic Lacquer gloss

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rex Stallion, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. So my `64 Rivi was originally painted with acrylic lacquer. I want a period correct sheen to my gloss paint when I paint it. I find the bc cc and single stage looks kinda plastic for that era. Is there anything else like an acrylic enamel?
     
  2. henryj1951
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  3. CutawayAl
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    Acrylic lacquer is still available if that's what you want.
     
  4. It is available just depends on you local paint jobber and your wallet.


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  5. pimpin paint
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    Hey Rex,

    Several routes you could go: Lacquer based finish is still sold in some locations, and that's the way I'd go. A single stage finish in acrylic enamel or urethane, with a hardner used in both, would offer you some improved durability over a lacquer, but not the 100% look your probably after. A good detail man, could obtain a lacquer-like look to a urethane finish with skill, but the finish will only fool the untrained eye! Nothing looks more foolish than a big money"traditional build'' with an overcleared urethane paint job- think bad hair piece on a bald dude:eek:

    " Humpty Dumpty was pushed "
     
  6. GM's "Magic Mirror" Laquer gloss was a bit on the dull side compared to the wet look results of any modern finish.
    Plastic,as you indicate ,really describes the new finish's appearance well.......

    I believe the true OEM laquer look is best achieved by" right out of the gun" /srayed finishes that have had no buffing done on them[like most factory cars GM did in the day.
    They used a retarder ,even in their "slow dry" laquer thinners instead to achieve this look.....
     
  7. redroaddog
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    i've painted a lot of lacquer back in the day i use the new **** now if the car is a metlic color then you have to clear it if your buffing it. on completes we always used retarder to slow it down. i did a 36 ford for myself in the seventies to prove a point i didn't clear it. the trick was to get each coat to flow into the last. i let it set for two months and buffed it with no "rings" or bullseye from buffing thru each coat of paint it looked great so it can be done without clear but you better have a clue as to what your doing.if you go down that road i can coach you thru it...Dave:cool:
     
  8. Thanks for the replies, the rivi was painted with a base clear sometime in the past so I`d be real leery to put lacquer over it even if I could get it up here in the great white north. Back in the day Centauri was the big thing. I think it was a acrylic enamel. Wonder if that would be closer.I don`t want satin and I don`t want the bc cc single stage urethane gloss either, whats a fellow to do?
     
  9. redroaddog
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    the acrylic enamel with hardner is a form of urethane.if you get a smooth clean paint job it would look close to what you want but once you buff on it it starts to look like base coat clear coat with the urethane "peel" some paints have:cool:
     
  10. pimpin paint
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    Rex,

    Today, given what material and labor run, there ain't no way I'd shoot a top coat over an old paint job. The best/longest living paint job is that with the fewest layers of different paint materials on the surface;)

    This is gonna sound crazy, but you may wanna look into ''Treehugger Kool-Aid " a.k.a. waterborne paint material. The shops' that have completly gone over to waterbased finish systems just love this ****. It features good colour matches, great flow when shot correctly, and you can acheve factory peel with some pratice. I'm guessin Kanada has gone commie jus like Kalifornia as far as paint regulations goes, so finding lacquer or acrylic enamel as well as correct solvents & hardners isn't gonna happen:mad: A single stage urethane, without the clear, cut and buffed properly, may be as close as your gonna get to old world lacquer today:(
     

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