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Coverting a 64 Galaxie to a gm one wire alt????

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by old soul, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. old soul
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    SO I have a rebuilt 302 and I dropped it in the car. Instead of putting the generator back on it. I mounted up a gm one wire alt. mind you there was no motor in the car when I bought it. My question is. The wires that went to the generator run back to the voltage regulater box. I pulled the box off. The one that was a ground I grounded it back to the fire wall. Now do I connect all the wire togather that went to the voltage regulater box and the the ones that went to the generator hook those on the stud to the one wire alt??????? Thats how I did it on my 51 chevy.
     
  2. old soul
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    No ideas guys. Come on ford guys
     
  3. old soul
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    Theres really no one out there that has done this????
     
  4. yellow dog
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    The one alternator terminal connects to the battery side of the solenoid- that's it. You can convert a Ford style alternator to 1-wire with a small chip (made by Enos) that mounts on the back of the alternator. The advantage using this chip is that the charging light will be functional if it matters
     
  5. old soul
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    But I already mounted a gm one wire. Im just tryen to get rid of the voltage regulater. So what do I do with the 3 wires that use to go to the voltage regulater. They need to get juice some how???????
     
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  6. sunbeam
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    At the regulator hook the Bat wire and the Arm wire together use the arm. wire at the generator for the output on the Alternator. The field wire will not be used. These have been known for voltage spikes if you have hi dollar electronies you may wan't to rethink.
     
  7. yellow dog
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    I would just simplify.

    #10 yellow was old battery connection from reg to bat side of solenoid. reuse to the 1-wire alt or eliminate which ever is most convenient but this is a hot wire and needs
    to be dealt with. Alternator just needs a battery connection at solenoid.
    #18 blk-red was old ground and has no purpose
    #18 blk-wht was old field and has no purpose
    #10 yellow-blk was old armature and has no purpose
     
  8. old soul
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    So basicly the bid yellow #10 wire that went to the regulater coming from the firewall needs to be hooked up to the battery some how and the rest of the wires do not matter that went to the voltage regulater???
     
  9. old soul
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    I think I got it. So the old yellow #10 wire is just gonna become an accessorie wire that just hooks to the posative side of the battery. Then just run my one wire off the the stud on the alt to the battery side of the solenoid??? I think.
     
  10. yellow dog
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    The existing #10 yellow wire connects to bat side of solenoid. you can either connect the other end that was on the old regulator to the new alternator or eliminate altogether and run new wire from alt to bat-side of solenoid. I would simply run a new 10 guage wire (or 8 if your alt is high amperage). Remove the old #10 yellow wire at solenoid or you will have a hot 12v wire going nowhere and vulnerable to shorts. Its up to you if you want to open up the tape and get rid of unused wire altogether
     
  11. old soul
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    all I know is at the regulater if I dont hook up the yellow wire to a battery sorce the headlights dont work
     
  12. ibuild
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    sounds like you are lost, should be the same as with any sixtys car, give it a little time some more will chim in, good luck
     
  13. old soul
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    All I know is the only wire going to my posative side of my solenoid is a posative terminal.
     
  14. 62rebel
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    sometimes simply keeping what the car came equipped with works best. i hear "one wire alternator" and "Galaxie" in the same sentence and can't possibly imagine a scenario where it's necessary or desirable.
     
  15. yellow dog
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    I don't have a 64 wiring diagram but yes a 59 wiring diagram shows headlights tieing with the #10 wire from old regulator instead of going all the way to the battery side of solenoid. You could trace headlight wire out and reroute to solenoid or just insulate the old connector that was at regulator. You should be done...just make sure that you don't have any 12v open wire ends that could ground out
     
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  17. old soul
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    HMMM thats a easy one. Lets see dependabilaty and one wire sounds good to me. Not a genarator that burns up the bearings every time you dont oil it look at it wrong or get it wet. Or have to play geussing games if its the voltage regulater. You can argue the fact of whats better or not. But the fact is ford did switch to an alt for a reason. So because I wanted something simpal I figured Ill just put a low maitenance alt on it and hey one wire sounds better then a cluster and tryen to figure out a 3 wire ford alt. I just thought I didnt need the voltage regulater any more. So I figured. Hey let me get rid of this contraption. So I unhooked it and smashed it on the floor. Then I thought well on my 51 chevy I just hooked the wires that went to it togather and I was good to go and just hook one wire off the alt stud to the solenoid. But i think I might be wrong.
     
  18. fordor41
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    If you have a single wire alt it has an internal reg. run the alt output to the batt side of the starter sol. remove all the original reg wires/reg. That's how I did mine, with a GM alt. Been like that for about 16 yrs.
     
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  19. kingofthecrate
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    Yeah I dont understand why this wasn't said first? I read that entire thread.. it was hard but I did it and I am now crafting myself a ribbon...

    Remove all the wires and install a 10 gauge wire from the alt to the positive side of the solenoid terminal.. grab an voltage meter and make sure you dont have more than 1.5 voltage drop, if you do bump up the gauge of the wire to a lower number.. keep in mind with a one wire you normally wont get that thing charging until you bump your rpm's past maybe 1200 and that excites the alternator..
     
  20. old soul
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    Why was it so hard to read?????
     
  21. tommyd
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    I did this conversion on my 64 Fairlane. I left the voltage regulater on and wired as the factory had it. I think that I took the generator wiring and rolled up and either taped it or cut it out all together. If the head lights wont work then do as the others are saying and just run that wire to the battery side of the solenoid. You will NOT regret dumping the generator.
     
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  22. fordor41
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    Exactly !!!
     
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  23. Spooky
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    LOVE this! This just solved my problems on my '59 Edsel!
     

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