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AOD swap ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CayoRV, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. CayoRV
    Joined: Dec 19, 2008
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    I have searched and read a lot of info regarding this and just want to make sure I have my information correct before jumping in and turning the wrenches.
    I am currently running a 351W/C4 combination and have a 302W/AOD complete out of a 1886 Lincoln. My intension is to keep the 351 and install the AOD to gain the 4th gear od for highway cruising.
    From the info I have gathered I believe I need to use the plate on the back of the engine (behind the flexplate) and the torque convertor from the AOD but I am unsure of which flexplate to use.
    I intend to use the Lokar linkages and cables for the TV cable and as I already am running a Lokar shifter convert it and use it again as well and make the necessary changes to mounts and the driveshaft. I am also very aware of the need to make certain that the TV cable is adjusted properly to avoid the immediate destruction of the trans.
    So my ? is which flexplate do I need to use? And, have I missed anything?

    Chuck
     
  2. ibuild
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    i have two 351's one with a c6 the other with a AOD i used the 351 flexplate and the transmission shop provided the torque converter, also building another with the 351 and AOD i will have the transmission built for it also don't think i have helped much but you will like the AOD
     
  3. Hnstray
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    from Quincy, IL

    Your AOD will need a 164 tooth flexplate. If your current C4 has that, I believe it will work...unless there is a different bolt pattern for the AOD converter. The thing to be aware of is, there are two externally balanced weights used by FOMOCO....a 28oz and 50oz. That is determined by the engine, not the trans.

    I put an AOD behind a '67 289 that is 28 oz and had a 157 tooth flexplate C4 originally. The AOD I obtained had come from a 50oz weight, 164 tooth flexplate installation. I bought a 28oz, 164 tooth flexplate and ****oned it together.

    Ray
     
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  4. FrozenMerc
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    I can't help my self, but that must be one rare Lincoln. :D

    Enough smart***ness. Hnstray is right. Just make sure the balance on the flex plate matches the engine. Also, make sure you get a Throttle Valve cable for that AOD. It won't work without one.

    Good Luck
     
  5. okiedokie
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    Rare? What would make it rare?
     
  6. EnglishBob
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    It said '1886' Lincoln.
     
  7. CayoRV
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    Damn old fingers! I even proof read that before I posted and still missed it!
    Thanks for the help. I now know I need to find a 164 tooth plate with the 28 oz. weight to match the 351. Not sure whats in there now but I will soon find out!
    Thanks again guys.

    Chuck
     
  8. CayoRV: I believe you need to go back and read the posts. Sounds like if you have the 351, you need the 50 oz. weight with the 164 tooth plate. Best check with one of the transmission builders to make sure you have the right combo. And the TV cable adjusted correctly is a must.
     
  9. Mike51Merc
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    2X on the TV cable thing. My buddy cooked his ****** on a ride around the block that way.
     
  10. CayoRV
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    I read in another thread that all 351's were 28 oz weight as were all 302's prior to 91. I guess its back to the search function to find that thread again.

    Chuck
     
  11. Johnny Wishbone
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    Chuck, all small Ford's were 28 oz imbalance until 1983. Then when they switched the 302 to a one piece rear seal the 302 went to a 50 oz imbalance. There was a big and small flex plate and the 50 oz is only available in a big flex plate. So if you have a 302 from a 86 Lincoln it should be a one piece rear seal and 50 oz imbalance so you need to use the flex plate that goes with the engine. I have been through all this multiple times and the most common problem is when someone puts a newer engine in a old car and the car has the small flex plate, you cant buy a small flex plate with the big weight and the engine shakes. I have make a couple of these, but since you have an AOD you need the big flex plate so if your C-4 has the small flex plate just get one for a car with a 351 an a AOD. I hope that wasn't too confusing..... As far as the TV cable, when you get the instructions with the cable it will tell you how to adjust it. If you can change the transmission, I'm sure you are easily capable of adjusting the cable, its not too hard. Good luck!

    JW
     
  12. CayoRV
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    JW, thanks for the reply. I have found a bunch of info no the importance of and the proper proccedures for adjusting the TV cable so I'm pretty confident that I understand that aspect of the swap. So my bottom line is that the 302 flex plate is 50 oz imbalance and the 351 requires 28 oz. imbalance. I need a large diameter, 28 oz imbalance flex plate to make my combo work. I think everything else is accounted for. I just would like to have all the pcs on hand before I jump in and start wrenchin!

    Chuck
     
  13. Johnny Wishbone
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