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Can A 6 Carb SBC Set-Up Be Done Affordable???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Greaser Bob, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Greaser Bob
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    Was wondering just that....Mezmorized by the look but can it be done for around $1,200? Any suggestions?:rolleyes:
     
  2. mgtstumpy
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    To keep costs down, only run on the centre 2 x carbs and block off the outside 4 x carbs. Run the choke on the centre 2 x carbs. Rebuild is a lot cheaper 2 -v- 6. As long as your engine can run on 2 x carbs. At WOT 6x97s will flow approximately 930cfm so 2 x 97s will flow 310cfm. He's a calculator to determine CFM.
     
  3. Greaser Bob
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    Thanks mgtstumpy! But I'm also interested in the initial build-up costs. Is it not very practical to think it can be done for under an arm and a leg and a first born son???
     
  4. MTR-HD-Ordie
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    I think any multiple carb set up is expensive! Only saving grace is finding used stuff, then you gotta know what your looking for, and it helps to have the knowledge to rebuild and set them up your self. I'm running a tri power with GM 2-jet carbs. Running on the center with the other 2 progressive. A great set up and easy on the MPG if you keep your foot out of it. A new set up is close to 2K, used for much less if you shop around. Good luck on shopping around, half the fun is the search!
     
  5. Why have six carbs if you will block off two?
     
  6. Same reason a woman pasts on false eye lashes. :rolleyes:

    You can do it affordable if you shop. Find an intake that is less than parfect and clean it up. Find carbs that no one wants and rebuild them. Sweat equity.
     
  7. eric54chevy
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    I've got around 700.00 in the one I have. Carbs need to be rebuilt and a few of the intake studs needs to machined.....People want crazy money for stromberg 97's....I shopped around and picked up the 97's I have for on average 70.00 a piece, and the intake was 200.00....affordable, maybe....
     
  8. Jmountainjr
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    Can you rebuild the carbs yourself? Are you OK with 94s or are you hung up on 97s? Can you build your own linkage? If you are OK with 94s and can rebuild them yourself, then you can get into a 6X2 as affordable as it will ever be. I didn't say cheap. A lot depends on the pieces. It nice to have matching carbs, but there is some wiggle room depending on how you want to run them - progressive or straight up. Try to at least get two matching carbs carbs for the middle two in either case. Offenhauser manifolds are a bit more affordable that Weidand and Edlebrock. If your budget is about $1200 and you can do the work your self, you should be able to build an Offenhauser setup with 94s.
     
  9. Greaser Bob
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    Kool-Time to start doing some homework! On top of that does anyone have an opinion on the Edelbrock x-16 intake? Does it make it really hard to remove the valve covers at all?
     
  10. 24riverview
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    Is that it or just trying to get past a certain local bucket? ;)
     
  11. Greaser Bob
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    Holy shit that's funny! Yes I would love to hand Nic his ass but his set up is so much better than mine. But honestly as long as he keeps missing shift/gears I don't need to worry!!!!!
    Really I've loved this look as long as I can remember-and DO envy his:D
     
  12. Greaser Bob
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    And while we're on the subject, does anyone have any experience with the 9 Super 7 carbs out right now???
     
  13. BOOB
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  14. Jmountainjr
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    The X-1 will probably break your budget. Plus, you need to bo honest as to how you'll drive this thing. The X-1 has a lot of plenum and has some of the same issues as a tunnel ram on the street. Do a shearch on here and you'll find plenty of opinions on the 9 Super 7s.
     
  15. Greaser Bob
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    I did search them and for the most part I'm reading they're junk!
     
  16. Fenders
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    If only two are operational you don't have to rebuild the other four -- just pretty them up !! :)
     
  17. Jmountainjr
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    Since any 6x2 can be an initial tuning challange, you will be much better off learning to build the carbs yourself and get to know them inside and out. So then as you add / subtract power valves, change jet combos, spray nozzles, etc., you'll be able to just tear into it. If you can't, or choose not to, you probably should go with a different carb setup.
     
  18. mart3406
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    What about using more common
    and readily available Rochester
    2GC's instead of Stromberg 97's??
    The small-bore 2GC's that came
    stock on 283's and such, flow about
    the same as the 97's but are a lot more
    available and thus, a lot cheaper. Plus,
    you can still scrounge good rebuildable
    2GC cores yourself in just about any
    boneyard and carb kits for them are
    also readily available in just about any
    autoparts store. Unless you can find a
    manifold already drilled for them,
    (some 6X2 manifolds were) you'd have
    to buy (or make) some "4-bolt to 3-bolt"
    carb adaptors, but that's also easily and
    cheaply do-able.

    Mart3406
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  19. Camel toe kid
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    Hey plowboy cuz i know you like em i ll bring my t bucket with six twos on it to torque fest so you can slobber on it lol!
     
  20. Doesn't the added weight hurt your performance, oh gee falseys are for the look aren't they. :D
     
  21. Greaser Bob
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    So not fair......
     
  22. Greaser Bob
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    But yah-that is the way I'm leaning......Rochesters that is. Plentiful/reliable=Good for me!!!!!
     
  23. Camel toe kid
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    I got ol 97s on it n had em on for 12yrs cool but thirsty kinda like you!
     

  24. Cameltoe,
    I am not a purest by any means (although I would like you to be ;)) and I may run Roccesher 2Gs on a 6 by setup. They are cheap and easy to come by. I picked up a box of them a couple of years ago for 15 bucks at a swap meat, you can still buy them over the counter rebuilt for less that a hundred dollars a carb.

    Inexpensive and Stomberg should not be used in the same sentence.
     
  25. 36cab
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    Plowboy13,

    I bought parts from from Uncle Max (and I also followed his excellent advice) and rebuilt the 97s on my Super Dual myself.

    But then we are a little more on the ball "down south" but I can walk you through the rebuild if you want.:D

    If I did not already have the 97s I would have used 94s. And Matt is a whiz with Rochesters if you go that route.
     
  26. RustyNCA
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    If you mean the X-1, it's not all that bad getting the covers off. You could pm me if you have any questions about how my life with the X-1 has been.

    Cheers
    RustyNCA

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  27. RustyNCA
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    I tried the 94s I have and didn't like the way they ran, so far I have much better luck with the 97s. Hopefully the 94s will work better as a 3x2, I plan on running them on our 58 Tbird one of these days.
     
  28. carbking
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    To reiterate what many already know in comparison of the various carbs mentioned in this thread:

    (1) Holley 94's are slightly larger from front to back than Stromberg 97's, thus requiring more distance on the intake manifold platform than 97's.
    (2) Rochesters come in several mounting sizes, the size commonly used on the same manifold platform as the 94/97 is referred to as the small size. Small size Rochesters come in both front fuel inlet and side fuel inlet. These are significantly less common than a few years ago.
    (3) The much more common larger mounting size Rochesters would not mount on the same manifold platform without the use of an adapter.

    The point being, before settling on a make/type of carb, determine if these may be used with your manifold. We get at least one call monthly from someone who did not do all the necessary homework.

    Jon.
     
  29. Jon
    You and I see fellas put the cart before the horse all the time but the question always comes up for me why would anyone buy carbeurators without first buying the intake? For me it is like buying pistons without first owning a block, or a cam shaft without owning an engine.
     
  30. vrod64
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    Sure it can be done and runs WELL on all 6 :D. 383, Muncie and 3:23 gears and actually gets 13 mpg if you keep your foot out of it.

    run 3 Weber IDA 2 barrels on my Coupe and it , starts ,idles and runs better than ANY single carbed motor I hwith a 327 ave ever had.
     

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