On Thursday I saw prices anywhere from 2.65 to 3.59 for regular unleaded. So when I came home I loaded up with about 22 gallons at 2.67 - at midnight they too went up and most places are now in the $3.09-$3.29 range. The odd thing is in a small town I went through, I saw these prices: Mobil was $3.21, a grubby independent station was $3.15, the Stewarts' Shop was $3.59 and the Citgo just out of town was $2.99. The first three within a mile, the last one only a couple miles past that. Does that make any ******** sense? I'm ready to park my Suburban and run an S10, even if I have to play games with the ***le to get it on the road. Or else see if I can get 25 MPG out of this '50 Chevy and run that until it snows. Maybe if I run a 3.08 or so gear in it (and a T5)...
Sure wish I could bike to work. I rode 10.5 miles each way for many years. Started during th '70s fuel problems. I was lucky enough to have shower facilities at work. When the commute was too long, different job, I drove part way, took the bike off the car and pedalled the rest. It sounds a little corny but when I biked I felt that I was off work when I left the building. When I drive the car I don't feel off until I get home. Miss the bike! Now I work second shift. Don't think I'll be pedalling at midnight. No busses to work either. I'll slow down a little on the highway.
In the second, the second civil war.[/QUOTE] seems like i heard this the other day ......only time will tell....bdi
I must be pathetic....was biking before all this (takes just as long to bike door-to-door as it does for me to drive and park) but on my MTB then after this hit I scored a free roadbike and now I am punishing my testicles with that. I still got a car with near 20 gals in it.....but it has been parked for over a week now. started in on a brake swap and then once all this **** started I figured why stop there....
This afternoon prices dropped at a local station from $3.39 to $2.99....the place was packed (I was one of them). Later, other stations followed suit. My wife and I were talking the other night about scooters. Although they get great gas mileage (as much as 80 miles per gal.) they only go about 45mph. I live about 6 miles from work. Not too far, but I have to drive a main highway to get there. The speed limit is 55....which means most everyone drives 60-65. I told her, I'd have to take a change of underwear with me to work 'cause the first time a semi went by I'd be poopin' my pants! I read that someone had gone into a motorcycle dealer thinking that they'd buy one to save on gas. When they saw the prices ranged from $6k to $15K they said "lets see, how much gas can I buy for $15,000?" Good point.
In the 70's, independent truckers just plain parked thier trucks when it wasn't profitable to haul stuff. Everything you touch during the day was once in a truck. Buy stock in FedEx, UPS and DHL... They can absorb the high fuel prices longer than the smaller shipping companies can, and they will.
Gas is now $3.29 here, and most of the Gas stations have there pumps covered. Only a station here and there have some of there pumps uncovered, and there are long lines.
I heard that the hurricane knocked 8 refineries out, half of which produce mainly gasoline. Add to this, that the refineries have been running at 98% capacity with antiquated equipment and it's really no wonder that stations are running out of gas. The long term solution is new refineries and nuclear power plants.
$1.48.1 cents per liter up here. Thats 5.61 per US gal, Canadian money.. So that is, I think, 4.72 per US gal, US money? I think the math is right...
Smartest thing said! When I ride to work, I FEEL BETTER!!!!!!!!!!! In the 10 years I rode to cl***es and work every day, I was as buff and fit as you could dream of. It was fun, rain, snow, those really nice spring days. The day I quit my bike shop job, I stopped along the creek and watched baby bunnies and some ducks. You dont get that in a car! Now, I am building a house 20 miles out. Carla and I are looking forward to the carpool, we have plans made. How many folks get to see their loved one for an extra hour a day that is their commute? I am sure I will do the bike ride on at least one or two scheduled days. Cant wait to hammer on the pedals like I once did! She also has been wanting to learn how to ride a motorcycle. I think that would be great for us both on days when you dont need to haul ****. Hotrods? Hell both of mine get as good of milage as our late models! What we need to do is stop the panic. The powers that be want panic. ****e, em.
And you used a Honda to pick up the 2.8? WTF Hack! Yer lettin' me down. I'm startin' to loose faith in your ability to be cornier than all.
Hey Joe, I am building one for myself. They are pretty steep if you buy em outrught. Bike E filed for bankruptcy too.
My scooter gets about 70 mpg, so I'll be commuting that way for a bit. We had a gas shortage scare here in Baltimore yesterday and people rushed the pumps. It was just like the 70's all over again. One Station was charging $5.50 for regular and $7.07 for high test and GETTING IT. The local authorities say it was all an internet rumor that went out of control and that there's an adequate supply. The entire incident is being "investigated" (hahahahahaha) for price gouging (REALLY???) I didn't get gas myself, but the lines at the gas station royally screwed up downtown rush hour because they spilled into the street. What a mess. I filled my car this week on Wednesday morning with regular for $2.65. When We got home from the Green Day concert on Wednesday night it was up to $2.99 at the same station. Yesterday the same gas was up to $3.65. That's in 3 days. At this rate, I'll get Faye on the road and not be able to afford her gas to drive anywhere fun. Stacey
[QUOTE=My wife and I were talking the other night about scooters. Although they get great gas mileage (as much as 80 miles per gal.) they only go about 45mph. You can get scooters that easily do those speeds and are designed for highway use. They are bigger that what you're thinking, but cost WAAAAAAY less than $10k. My Bajaj 150 Does about 60-65... and I've had it on I-95 before. (with a huge group of other scooterists and for less than 10 miles). Many 250's would be perfect for the commute you describe. Stacey
I ride a scooter, Vespa/Stella. 150 cc 4 spd trans. Stock could maintain 55mph. I can't keep anything stock! Pinasco 177 cylinder kit, upeared trans, bigger carb. Now I see 70mph easily. Its a Stella scooter imported by Genuine Scooters here in Chicago. Dealer network all over the country 'cept the left coast. Can by them brand new and get a warranty for about $3000. Stella is a clone of the Vespa PX150. Good quality bike. I bought mine in April 03 and have recently p***ed the 30,000 mile mark. Yes, 30K miles! I ride ALL year and my ride to and from work is around 30 miles total. I ride a scooter because I am a scooterist. Not because of gas mileage. We (my wife and I) also own 7 other Vespa's from 1959 to 1978, a 1950 Buick, 1960 Comet, 1973 Impala and a 2003 Explorer. Donzie, go to Scoot Around Town; 1047 E. Michigan Ave., Ypsilanti, MI 734-484-9993. I think they have Stella's Duane
Gas hear in the Tampa west central Dunedin area of Fl. is out and what you can find is 3.35- 3.50 a gl. people are duken it out at the pumps. I agree with the gas pres. thing. josh
A very wise man at my work pointed out something that should have been obvious. Around here, midgrade is pretty much always a dime more per gallon than regular, and premium is twenty cents more than regular. When gas was a buck, that was a big 20% price hit, so it was sometimes hard to justify premium for a car that didn't really need it. Lately, the prices have stayed the same way. If regular is $3, midgrade is $3.10 and premium is $3.20. I think that's like a 6% price hit, if the math is right. Might as well buy premium these days. More bang for the buck, sort of.
Relating to newer cars with all of their high tech hardware, they will run WORSE on super if they are only supposed to run reg gas. Has to do with burn time. Duane
A thought: If a 20% price difference was neccesary to realize a profit on premium when regular was selling for $1.00, then logically, the same 20% would apply when regular is selling at $3.00. This would place premium at $3.60 with regular at $3.00. Simple mathematics. Examine the flip side. If profits are acceptable with a 6% difference while regular is selling for $3.00, then we were being gouged back when regular was only a buck. Were they gougeing us with an overprice on regular? Psycologically, it's easier to sell your case (however corrupt it may be) with the ten cent and twenty cent price differences between regular and midgrade and regular and premium. A question: What are your thoughts regarding the fact that oil futures are now being traded on the NYSE as a commodity? This has not always been the case. Gasoline is no longer a product that is subject to the economic forces of supply and demand. Investors can now 'manipulate' oil prices by purchasing grossly inflated future options. When a mul***ude of these purchases are made, the original investors options' become more valuable as 'wanna be investors' jump on the bandwagon thereby driving futures even higher. This allows the original investor to 'sell short' and realize a profit. The greater the amount originally invested, the greater the take. The wanna be investor's money is now in the hands of the original investor. The American way! Meanwhile, gasoline prices soar based on these artificial 'realities.' If you were an oil executive, and you could manipulate oil prices to any number you choose, thereby increasing your profits at the wholesale level, would you do it? What if you could consort with investors at the highest levels and create a situation that milked hundreds of millions from the pockets of the American middle cl***? You might not do it. But they would, and they are doing it. All of the debates that I hear raging on gasoline prices are diversions to the reality. Reality is that big money can control gasoline prices now, just as it has controled gold, silver and common stocks for years. Moral of the story: Bet with the big boys. They don't lose. Vintintin
Gas is scarce in the panhandle. A few comments In the past oil experts have stated ( can't remember if 80s or 90s) that the cost of producing the 3 grades of gas is only .06. the price should be 3.00, 3.03 & 3.06. But the higher the octane the more crude is used so the government encourages the 10-11 cent gap to reduce crude use. Commodities have been trading for decades in places like Chicago. Oil, gas, copper, pork bellies ect. If you are a distributor & can handle delivery of a contract load you lock in the price @ the time/date the contract is for. If prices go up they make extra money, if not they take a beating on it. individuals are strictly speculating on making a profit. 98% lose money! Those who try to manipulate the market usually fail, or get cought. Remember T Boone Pickens attempt to corner the silver market?
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