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Swapping 58 apache 6 lug to 5 lug

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Seandavis333, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. Seandavis333
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    I saw where I can use a 70s camaro rear end in a 58 chevy apache. To convert the front 6 lug drums to a 5 lug disc set up, what do I need and how do I don't?
     
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  3. Seandavis333
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    Excellent. The brake pedal listed will not work with manual trannys. Is there one for a 4 spd manual?
     
  4. gimpyshotrods
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    I have not seen one. The issue is the mechanical clutch linkage. There are plenty of under-floor pedal assemblies, but most push a hydraulic setup. It is not hard to convert, even without going inside the bellhousing. Do you have a V8 or a L6?
     
  5. Seandavis333
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    350 v8. My wife wants a manual tranny installed. Any suggestions?
     
  6. gimpyshotrods
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    A worthwhile investment, both precisely made, and dependable:

    http://www.kugelkomponents.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_7&products_id=195

    If you want a clean firewall:
    http://www.kugelkomponents.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_5&products_id=247

    Get a 3/4" bore:

    http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/kit_hcrc.htm

    I use these at the shop on a regular basis. I have a Kugel Komponents clutch/brake assembly and a Novak clutch setup in my own rod. Flawless. No fabrication headaches.

    You'd likely have to trim the lower end of the pedal bracket to clear your steering column, but that just takes a 4-1/2" grinder, with a cutoff wheel.

    Not "exactly" the same stuff, but same principal:

    http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/1101clt_1959_chevy_apache_brake_install/viewall.html
     
  7. Seandavis333
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    Thanks. As far as the front end disc conversion, do the after market kits require that I take the 6 lug set up off and reinstall the 5 lug onto the spindle? It seems too easy!
     
  8. gimpyshotrods
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    They are designed to be all bolt on. It IS that easy. The pedal assembly will be a little more work, but you can do it. Keep in mind, most require 15" disc brake wheels, when making your wheel selection.
     
  9. Seandavis333
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    Do you also know if there is a conversion kit from the l6 to a v8 or do I need to weld the sbc mounts to the crossmember?
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    If you can find the OEM stuff, these did come with a SBC. If not, the "generic" tube style crossmembers for the engine and trans work well. They are cut to length, and the ends should be welded on. They can then be bolted in. This a non-challenging welding job that most good welders can do inexpensively. Ask around in your area, there should be someone who can help you.

    Some good info:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599274
     

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