Has anyone heard of adding acetone to your fuel to increase gas milegae. I have heard that a small amount added to your tank will help gas mileage. the amount I heard was 1 once per 10 gal. I found and interesting article on the internet but I can't seem to find out if this guy is liggit or is a motor builder looking to up his business when some smuck adds acetone to his motor and blows it up. http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm I know there are some smart ass people on this board but I am looking for the SMART only people to explain or comment...
there was a post on here last week about it. seemed to make sense so i tried it. i don't have a mpg-o-meter and haven't driven enough yet to do the math on it. (only 52 miles, the needle is still past "F" so i can't tell yet) i did it to my wife's '00 2dr focus which gets between 25-30 avg depending if the ac's on or not. i'm going to make a point tnot to use it untill i can get some mpg figures this is the one from last time http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
Yep that article is from the same guy. I just want to know if anyone is really doing it and if it really works....thanks for the feed back...I think i will try it.
I mixed a full tank of reg unleaded in my '88 chevy work truck[TBI]..with 3 ounces of 100 %pure Acetone plus 3 ounces of 2cycle oil....it seems to sound a little different[louder idle sound] than without and when I was pulling a 40Mercury on a heavy trailer that I had pulled [before the mix]- it seems to have a slight amount more "beans"....[I BELIEVE]...... THE 100%pure ACETONE WAS 3.99 FOR A QUART[48 oz] AT WAL MART= [roughly 16 tanks] of mix???
As mentioned, was on here only last week or so: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68371&highlight=acetone FWIW, I'm not sold...
try this link for a fuel additive, "toulene" <LI class=first>www.nitrous.co.uk/toulene.htm , gave this a read and gave it to a friend who drives a turbo'd supra. he was skeptical at first but now uses the stuff in every tankful, swears by it
Tolulene will also get you on surveilance tapes at your point of purchase........it's pretty much a controlled substance or a "candidate"....
well, guys, you gonna post when the electric f/p in the tank craps out? i'm thinking the insulation on the windings is going to disolve.... MORE $$$ FOR ME!!!!!!! hot damn!
On a somewhat related subject, back in the early days of top fuel they used to add Hydrazine to the nitro right before they fired em up. Just a few eyedrops of the stuff made green flames, big power and was hell on connecting rods. It was very unstable once added, that's why they waited until the last minute to put it in the nitro. Of course the NHRA banned it for obvious reasons. Brad
Hydrazine is pretty bad shit - do not fool around with it - toxic as all hell & easily absorbed through the skin. http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/hydrazin.html
there is no problem with the purchase of toulene, you can purchase it from most paint supply stores without any trouble, over the counter. Toulene was used as a paint additive(basically equal to acetone) in the old days, therfore you don't have to worry about gov't watchdogs, atleast in Canada.
Does anyone know of the effets of acetone on the moving parts of an engine--rings, seals, bearings, pistons, rods, etc.? I saw the same article on Fark and the possibility to get any better mileage,(better than 12 to a gallon) perks up my ears. RRR
We already said, it will soften ANYTHING made from petroleum derived products. O ri ngs, seals or whatever. It will also cause premature breakdown of engine oil. As for tolouene. If you are found burning tolouene in an engine you will probably go to jail. The controls on tolouene are now enormous, as are the fines. Is there anything wrong with being old fashioned and using methanol. It's cheap and it works. As for improved mileage, acetone is $10 a gallon. If you want improved mileage get a 4 banger. Burning acetone in a motor is dumb.
I call bullshit. Towards the middle of the article he's claiming that his mileage went up from 30 to 50 mpg. There's no way that happened. Also, acetone by itself will dizzolve rubber stuff, but I don't think such a small percetage will hurt anything. That doesn't change the fact that they're full of shit though. Just my humble opinion. Prove me wrong.
Burning $3.45 a gallon gas in a car is DUMB.......trying anything that could help is at least trying to not be part of the problem.
This is a good point - although acetone supposedly aids in fuel atomisation, it may also attack rubber and plastic elements in the fuel system. I don't trust it, personally. Hydrazine is the very same toxic rocket propellent that scared the whole country based on a rumor that it was leaking out of missile silos before they shut down the Titan program...
Yep. Ditto on that. Just a word of advice...if you get something on your hands and can immediatly taste it in your mouth....you have just screwed up big time. Just make sure you have a will and your family is provided for.
Aw...C'mon. Tolouene is a funky word. We could just go for toluol. It's bad stuff to have around however you spell it. I reckon it caused my old mans liver cancer. I used to manufacture a degreaser that contained it. Now I figure I don't have to die quite so fast.
i basically take baths in the shit, not saying it's good but if your careful, it won't hurt you. i'll change my mind if i end up with liver cancer! used in such small amounts, the affects on rubber are probaly not noticeable , we use it to clean screen printing screens and squeeges. the squeeges will goo up if left in it but don't do any damage from wiping it off, so i would'nt worry about seals and stuff. our car isn't leaking yet!!!!!
We are all well aware of the hazards of certain chemicals....But do we really know what is in the gasoline we routinely use in our lawn equiptment ,that is even used by our wives and children? I bet we do not have a clue.........AND IT PROBABLY WOULD SHOCK US ALL IF WE DID......... Do you think we can REALLY ,trust the petroleum companies to provide a SAFE fuel-and trust them, to not hide [any quantity of any particular substance]- that they could easily mix into a three million gallon tank of gasoline,that they would rather rid them selves of?
What we use for internal combustion fuels is a real witches brew of stuff. You are right in saying the list of chemicals would shock us. The petroleum companies are just doing what EPA is telling them to do when they blend gasolines for "air quality" with oxygen enhancers, etc. One of those being MTBE which is really nasty sh*t and is now contaminating our drinking water from being burned in our motor fuel. BUT we have no control over those ingredients. We do have control over the additives we are talking about in this post; acetone and toulene. Do like I did and do a Google search on "human carcinogens". You will get a list from a Federal report on known human carcinogens; i.e. those compounds KNOWN to cause cancer in humans. Not those suspected of causing cancer;but KNOWN. On that list of 54 compounds you will find coal tars. This is the black tars left over from the destructive distillation of bituminious coal. From coal tars they distill toulene. Based on this I would strongly recommend you stay away from toulene. On top of that it is highly flammable and easily evaporated. So if it doesn't burn your house down, it will help you along towards cancer. Diesel fuel when you burn it gives of blac particulate, soot. Carried along on that soot is what doctors call BETX. It stands for Benzine, Ethylbenzine, Toulene and Xylene. More of that coal tar distillates. And you will have Benzene which by itself is a known human carcinogen. We're surrounded by the stuff. Its just that some is more toxic than others and poses a much higher risk. Avoid the higher risk stuff.
Not to stray too far from the orig post- But Deisel emmissions are the number ONE cause of asmatic attacks in our major cities today..... Another point on the quality or the consisntencyof their "recipe" for our available fuel is this: Shell Petroleum distributors had a little mix up in their batch last spring in the New Orleans area......seems they "installed" a lot more sulfur in the blend than is acceptable...and then the end result was a whole lot of NEW vehicles suffered INSTANT fuel pump failure and system damage to the fuel injection systems............ They -re called the batch which was in the millions of gallons quickly-to limit their liability/costs in paying the motorists for the damage incurred.....SO YES it does happen to be a thing that can and does happen.
Most of the MBTE in the drinking water is reportedly from leaking gas station storage tanks. On the original subject, there was an article published a few yrs ago that said if you had a gummed up fuel tank acetone would cure it. Basicaly if your going on a long (couple tanks full) trip, fill your tank the night before, siphon out 5%, replacing that amount w acetone. During the long trip the acetone & gum is supposed to pass harmlessly through the system. After reading the earlier thread & this one I don't think I'll try it.
Toluene or methylbenzene as it is sometimes known, is an AROMATIC HYDROCARBON, meaning it contains BENZENE. BENZENE is superfuckingtoxic, and shouldn't ever be fucked with as a fuel additive. Acetone is mostly harmless, and you aren't going to be hurt by playing with it in your gastank. the benefits are a subject for debate, but hey, give it a shot...
It's absorbed through the skin and defats it. It's absorbed through the mucus membranes and does something to them, it's absorbed through inhalation. Attacks the internal organs and its effects are accumulative. The biggest advantage of acetone over tolouene is it also leaves the body pretty quickly. but it still does long term serious damage. Tolouene accumulates in the body and keeps doing damage. Basically if you are using acetone professionally in an enclosed area with out respirators, and a through draft you're not only in breach of the health and safety regs, you're either gonna die a miserable death or blow yourself up. I used to be blase' about metal polishing. I now have most of the symptoms of excess metals in my system. If you make yourself sick through bad work practices you won't be a hero, Just a sucker. Please don't go there.
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