'64 ford galaxie engine ungrade

I'm thinking about upgrading my engine from the slug 352 to something newer....Has anyone did this yet?.....I'd love to put a newer Mustang engine and automatic trans in.....I want this car to be something I could drive cross country with no problem........I know there s some pan sump problems on some.....Any Galaxie Experts out there?

 

You mean a 302/AOD combo?

 

On a 63 galaxie I did a 351 W swap, and later a 521 ,385 series ford.429/460. Was a good swap. much better than the 352. I wish I had used a later trans ,with O/D.

 

id stick with the 352 or maybe go up to a 390 dont go down to a small block

i hate the modern drivetrain into a cl***ic

 

Addapt an overdrive auto to what you have. Update the heads, intake and shorty headers. Talk to kenny at Thomas transmissions in Gautier, MS He already did one in a 64 Galaxie convertable

 

For what that will cost you in labor, aggravation, and $$$, you can upgrade that tired 352 to 390 with stock cheap parts, or build a torque monster 445 FE stroker. That will sit on stock mounts and that stock accessories will bolt up to. Fe motors have an excellent reputation for durability, dependability, and reliability. There is quite a bit of good speed equipment as well as dress up items to boot.Just the opinion of a galaxie expert

 

Not a 64 Galaxie but I'm in the process of converting a 48 Lincoln Continental to a 390 FE with 3X2 Ford Intake with Holleys. The car weights about 4200#. A 4V would be better but I like the looks of the 3X2 and I do have 4 of them so no cost involved.

My choice was to use a 4spd OD toploader out of a 70's PU-Van. It's really a 3 spd wide ratio with the 4th gear OD. Close to the same case as a Toploader. I've also converted to a 3.70 9" rear axle.

Power wise you could change heads & a cam and intake with headers and get some good performance. Run of the mill 352's were known for being low compression with really poor exhaust manifolds. Changing to a 3.50 or 3.70 rear axle ratio would really help.

Movin/on

 

I thought about a 460 and trans out of an older Lincoln Continental....I want something I can drive the Power Tour if I wanted.........I want dependability and a little get up and go......the 352 is a Dog as far as power.

 

I agree with the flow so far. I have a 67 Galaxie with the 390 and after a lot of research, I bought another 390 to "soup up". They are plenty reliable and with an OD ****** it will make it real easy to make those long drives too.

 

Build that FE, your block, 428 crank, that will make a nice little stroker. And remember, FE stands for F--king Expensive. Cal Custom covers, dual quads, and you got it. I love spending other peoples money!!!!

 

not questioning you or your mechanical ability but maybe the 352 has a few problems like maybe the cam is worn out the lifters are dished or the timing chain is stretched about to jump?

 

460 auto out of a penske truck into a 63 box top. Same frame as 64. The penske motor is a testbed for a 460 crate motor with ac. Much cheaper to stay with the FE platform and with new heads and tech could get 14 mpg....lol

 

The 352 probably needs a little love to run better,I had a 65 country squire with a 390 and a 65 custom 500 with a 4 bbl 352 and the 352 seemed to rev quicker then the 390. I put a 302 in the custom 500 for gas mileage but wish I kept the 352 to put in my 55 sunliner.

 

I've had the 352 and 390 in all my old Galaxies. Even being a bit tired, they all ran pretty well. If I wanted a big motor, I'd think the 460 myself, they go in with little trouble and make good cheap power.

Ultimately if I had the $$, I'd think a 351C and 4-speed toploader would be great.

Bob

 

I'd replace your tired 352 with a 390. Much easier to bolt in the same engine 'family'. They are a good, durable, dependable engine that you can get good power out of. Take a stock 390, swap in a cam, aluminum 4-barrel intake, electronic ignition, maybe headers... and you should be able to put a ton of trouble-free miles on it.



Malcolm

 

The good thing about your 352 at .050 over bore it's standard 390 bore with 390 crank rods and pistons you got a 390. If interested I have a set of new standard 390 pistons for $30.

 

To get back to what you asked, the '64 came with the 289 too, so a late 302/5.0 can bolt right in if you switch to the front-sump pan & pickup, and considering how much room there is in there, the Mustang/ Lincoln shorty headers would probably fit just fine- BTW, the Lincoln/ LSC versions are more restrictive than the Mutang types, but still better than a plain cast-iron manifold. As there's plenty of room for a Cruiso or C6 in there, an AOD fits pretty well, and has been done behind FE's. A torquey 5.0/AOD with 3.25's would fit what you were looking for, decent mileage and long-distance, be peppy but it ain't gonna be a rocket sled

 

289 SBF's were supplied in 64 Galaxie's as a stock option between the 6 cyl and the FE's, so getting parts to fit a 289/302/351W are avaiable, but you still won't end up with anything much better than your original FE. Late model modular motors (4.6's and 5.4's) have also been fitted, but the surgery and effort required make them even less suited.
Rebuilding your FE to be more efficient (power and economy) won't be cheap, but it will still probably end up a better solution.
Just my opinion.
Good luck with your choice, after all it's your car.
Cheers.

 

If your 352 is a dog, a 302 will be even worse (unless you sink cubic dollars into it, and even then it is a just high reving race motor). You need TORQUE for that land yacht. By far the easiest route (and quite possibly the cheapest) is to rebuild the 352 and put an AOD behind it. As already stated, a 352 can be easily bored and stroked to 440+ ci and built to put out stupid power. I built the 352 in my '62 Monterey using very readily available components, and it turned out 325 hp, and 375 ft-lbs of torque on the dyno, and still is 352 ci. Also, it could have easily put out larger numbers with a bigger cam. Broader Transmissions can supply you an AOD that will bolt right up to the 352 using it's original bellhousing so you don't even have to swap starters.

Good Luck.

Broader's AOD conversion.

 

I suspect Barry Rabotnick has forgotten more about FE's than most of us will ever know. Take advantage of his vast knowledge......
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FrozenMercs plan would be the one I would follow if the car were mine. Sounds to me like it fits what you said you wanted the car to do.

 

I'm thinking about an LS1 w/6speed in my 63 1/2 for the same reason. Mine has a nice FE w/2X4s. Can't p*** a gas station.

 

I have had 352s and 390s and even 427 Fords. Yes, comparatively, the 352 isn't as good as a 390 either in power or economy. But I drove cross country and back with a 390 powered 66 model and it was as reliable as any new car today. And it felt like it had more power than my new Mustang GT.I would do like a lot of others said and put a 390 in it. It would be easy and they are great engines that are hard to break.Just hop it up a little bit.

 

An LS1 in a Galaxie????/

you just ain't quite rite.....

 

Yeah right.

 

An LS is a great motor, what I like about it are its Ford-like design features. Kinda like a Y-block with windsor heads. But putting one in an old Galaxie is just wrong on soooo many levels. Like I always say, if I wanted a chevy, i'd buy one. JMO.

 

I have a 428 with a c6 just waiting for something for it to fit into
its a nice motor to drive, torque is something missing from todays engines

 

sounds like all the things that you want add up to the 390 being the choice.Having owned a 64 with a 289 which was great on fuel sounded good just not so quick on the uptake My current 64 is the z code with the 300hp 390 goes great, enough power highway cruising reasonably cheap to maintain just uses a lot more fuel.so my vote would be for the 390

 

I thought that would get some people talking. The FE ain't going No where!

 

lol there is a name I havent herd in years I know barry from his street racing days and he had a killer o/t ford with a FE that would scream!

 

He still has the black Fairlane boxtop, and is working on getting an engine back in it. The 505 Genesis/****/C6 setup from the Hot Rod EFI article that was in it and ran 10.20's is in my clean room right now

An an LS1 in a Galaxie? Seriously? Your Chebbrainwashing is complete, Gr***hopper
Like the man said, if you want a Chebbie, go get a Chebbie- don't F-up a cl***ic Ford