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Caddy 390 weak ignition advance

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by LeftCoastErik, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. LeftCoastErik
    Joined: Apr 23, 2010
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    Trying to help out a buddy with a 62 Caddy. New plugs, cap, rotor, Pertronix, coil, wires. New Holley 600 carb. Replaced all vacuum lines and verified no leaks.
    I set the timing at 5* with no vacuum hooked up. I see 14* at 2500rpm. With the dashpot hooked to ported vacuum, I see 19* total at 2500rpm. (With the dashpot hooked to full vacuum, I get 20* at idle and 39* at 2500rpm, so the advance seems to work.)
    The car is a turd with so little advance on the road. For a bandaid, I reset the timing to 12* initial and see 28* total at 2500rpm and this is way more driveable. But is still isn't right.
    Its been a long time since I got into a dizzy, but I am thinking the springs might just be ****ped out.

    Thoughts? Thanks guys!
     
  2. landseaandair
    Joined: Feb 23, 2009
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    Stock springs are really stiff. I dont think full advance would come in till way higher than 2500 RPM.
     
  3. landseaandair
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    Maybe the balancer spun? Could pull the plugs and check with a piston stop.
     
  4. LeftCoastErik
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    Checked TDC already and it looks good. I was basing my total timing test on what I had seen on here with a recommended 30* at 2000-2500. I tried googling it and couldn't find any other decent specs
     
  5. Jobe
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    Confirmed that vacuum advance is working?
    Also is it missing at all at higher RPM's?
    I had to shim my distributor on my 62 cadillac when I converted to Pertronix because at higher RPM's I was getting too large a gap.
     
  6. LeftCoastErik
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    advance is working, it doesn't miss at higher RPMs, biggest issue was freeway acceleration or merging. Upping the timing helped that. I measured per the instructions when I put it together and max gap was less then .060. so I *think* that's OK. I would imagine that would cause a miss but not effect advance though.
     
  7. sled56
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    Rebuilt the engine in 1960 coupe, 390, had to replace springs in dizzy as one had failed, solved the slugish advance problem.
     
  8. Zerk
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    Mechanism in the distributor gets gummed up or even rusty. There's a tube or oil cup somewhere on that ****er. Can't hurt, may help.
     
  9. LeftCoastErik
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    I will check that too

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  10. Engine man
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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    Have you checked the engine vacuum under load while driving?
     

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