Found this cool article about these rare supercharges with some good pictures of it. http://bangshift.com/blog/eBay-Find-A-Super-Cool-and-Ultra-Rare-Frenzel-Supercharger.html
Yup. Crazy rare right there. Here it is running. It's making a strange whistle noise and he explains he had to change a bearing.
I hate to be the first one to throw this out and I'm not accusing anyone here of wrong doing, but I can't help wonder what happened to the one stolen off the counter at the Antique Ford Supply in San Dimas a couple of years ago.
I know this one on the car and in the video above is over in Denmark. He had it for sale here on the HAMB for $22,000 and it sold to someone here in the US.
If its that rare I wouldn't have even been running it with a bad bearing. Sounded like he had some other issues as well.
Elrod is right. the Frenzel shown belongs to my friend Tim from Denmark. and it is sold to a fellow in Texas i think. we bring it to GNRS for him... And its not the stolen one! please see this old thread. -palle http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97482
It's tragic that it got stolen and hopefully the person responsible will get caught,, but being so valuable, why was it just sitting on the counter? A locked gl*** case would have been the way to show that off. Never the less, thieves ****. Crime of opportunity or not.
FWIW, those "whistled" when new. A bad bearing in one sounds like a Stuka on a dive-bombing run. jack vines
This isn't the first time a Frenzel supercharger has been stolen. Legend has it that John Frenzel in 1950 had made up 12 Frenzel superchargers including the prototype and were going to be sent out to Warren Fraser's Custom Engine Parts in Culver City CA. to be offered for sale from his shop in Culver City. The night before the superchargers were supposed to be sent out to California, somone broke into John Frenzel's shop in Denver CO. and stole 3 of these superchargers including the prototype. To date none of these stolen Frenzel superchargers have ever surfaced. This leaves 9 original Frenzel blowers that still exist today.John Frenzel never made any more of these superchargers other than the original 12 that he started with. The retail price in 1950 at Warren Fraser's in CA. was $225. per supercharger. That was big money back then and is likely why few were sold. The Early Ford Store in San Dimas still has a picture of the Frenzel supercharger that they had, still on their website. It looks much different than the one pictured at the start of this thread. I really hope that their Frenzel supercharger gets returned to them. It looks like these superchargers have a history when it comes to theft.
This is my Frenzel! I didn´t know the numbers they made. But I think it was more. Do some have more info?
**** they grow on trees over here ha ha..pm Tim! dkroadsters..he knows more! but he will leave with me for GNRS in 4 hours. so he might not answer the first couple of days! -palle
Hey guys, it is not the Frenzel stolen from the Antique Ford Supply. We know the history on this one. It also has the very rare Frenzel intake that came with it when new. The stolen one did not. What would be the chances of someone stealing a Frenzel and just having a Frenzel intake laying around to put it on? It will be coming home to Louisiana not Texas. It will definitely be at the Roundup but probably not this year. Tardel is building a nasty 296 CI 59AB flatty for it to go on. I've been collecting parts for the build for a while now. Polished Elco dual plug heads,Nash dual 8 dizzy on an Orosco angle drive,chrome Strombergs,polished aluminum Italmechanica oil pan, NOS 32 bus fuel pump. Tots of tasty bits/work inside. We will mate it to a 37 Lasalle top loader with a NOS Hildebrandt adapter that has been hanging on an old timers wall for over 50 years. Should be a screamer.
Acording to Pat Ganahl's book on supercharging: "This blower was rated at 6 pounds boost at 4200 RPM on the flathead,which would reportedly increase horsepower 50 percent over stock." In 1950 they tested one at El Mirage on a stock coupe with a flathead. Without the blower the car ran a top speed of 84.6 MPH. The 0-60 time was 16.3 seconds. They bolted on the blower and went 100.05 MPH top speed. The 0-60 time dropped to 11 seconds flat.
If some one need a Frenzel my be mine are fore sale or trade. Looking fore Federal ****ul heads to my -32 V8
Awesome Doc! Looking forward to seeing it and maybe someday parking my whacky mcculloch blower next to yours!
I have a 1939 39F McCulloch that I am finishing up a rebuild on that I may trade for the Frenzel. I would like a Frenzel for my collection of superchargers and to later put on my 34 5 Window. email is captjackspeed@gmail.com
This sounds like this flathead is going to be quite the engine when it is finally together. I remember quite a few years ago that Mike Russell had a similar combination on the 1932 Moonjean roadster. I'm sure there was a Frenzel supercharger for induction and it had Elco Twin heads as well. I have an almost NOS pair of original Elco Twin heads and an Elco Twin right angle drive that is NOS as well. It says Elco Twin right on it. On the reverse side of my Elco heads there is dark staining that looks like the engine was running far too rich. I rather suspect that the previous owner couldn't get the timing of the Nash twin 8 distributer correct at all, gave up and took the heads and distributer off the engine. What I was really wondering about was the Frenzel intake manifold. Before your Frenzel went to Denmark I believe it had been for sale at the Los Angeles Roadster Show. I go to fall Hershey every year and hang out with the flathead guys there. I remember some of them talking about the Frenzel intake and one of them had seen this particular intake at the LARS and commented that John Frenzel never made an intake like that and that someone else had made it up. Rare flathead speed equipment always gets poeple talking!! Does your Frenzel intake look original? I'm just curious. I'd love to see your car when it's finished. - Garney
It looks original to me,but I've yet to see it in person. It will be delivered to the GNRS this weekend.
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