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700 R4 vs 2004R

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jeep-joint, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. -C-.
    Joined: Oct 27, 2012
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    -C-.
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    from GERMANY

    Replaced a th350 with a 200 r4 most stuff fits, I even had not to replace the driveshaft. 700R4 is larger.
     
  2. choppedtudor
    Joined: Nov 28, 2009
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    700R4 is a good fit behind my flathead, I've since added a 471 blower to the mix....hehe
     

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  3. Jay Tyrrell
    Joined: Dec 9, 2007
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    http://www.webrodder.com/article.php?AID=426

    I think after you read this article it is a no-brainer. If you want to spend the money to build a 200 that can handle 100hp then go for it. But best bang for your buck would be the 700 that hopefully you could pull from a running car and install it into your ride.
    Jay
     
  4. skidro69
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    from Dothan, AL

    "It can take a lot more than the internet / cruise night rumor front says it can."
    It's pretty clear by now. The 200 4r is a lighter weight ****** for a car. The 700 R4 is a heavier ****** for a truck.
    You can look at pictures of how big and little all the parts are all day and night. Or you can ask every Tom, ****, and Harry.
    The bottom line is, you are building a 32 ford. Light, compared to a truck. Are you gonna tow a camper with your 32? Closer ratios, smaller housing.
     
  5. Mildsteel
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    from VALE N.C.

    The 200 hundred is same size as a powerglide and inter changes with the glide.
     

  6. This is true.

    Here's some more "no brainers"

    Do you need a 3.06 low gear in a light s/b hot rod with 3.73 -4.10 gears?

    Would you put a large, heavy T400 in same said car , or a T350?

    Would you put a large , heavy C6 in a SBF rod, or a C4?

    Would you put a 727 behind a 318-340-360, when you could use a 904?
     
  7. Professor Fate.
    Joined: Oct 26, 2012
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    I read a thread earlier about someone considering a 200-4R for a ride and I wondered what the general concensus was about it here. The search produced this thread, a****st others, but the link I suspected that was circulating was found here. Here is a reply by Jake's Performance (a well respected transmission builder) to the posted link that I copied from a website I moderate:

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    A little more educated food for thought on the "debate".
     
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  8. TexasT
    Joined: Dec 25, 2007
    Posts: 54

    TexasT
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    from Texas

    Not a rumor. Here is GM's sales specs.
    http://9c1.com/1.0/external/pdfs/1989_Chevrolet_Caprice_9C1_Sales_Brochure And if you look close, even GM doesn't know that it is a 200-4r.

    I'm a 2004r kinda guy. Not that the 700r4 isn't a dandy slush box. Just that the 2004r has a better spread between first n second and that it can be built to do what I wanted. It swaps in for a th350/400 and parts are readily available. Can anyone put one together and it survive? Nope, your builder must have some experience. Are there more builders that can get a 700r4 to live? Yep, but that doesn't make it a better trans, just a more accessible unit for the m***es.

    Like my Dad tells me, "you pays your money and you takes your chances". Good luck with your decision.
     
  9. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    from BC

    Stick with the 700's. Good 200R4 cores are getting scarce, and I might need another one someday...
     
  10. Years ago, both transmissions were blasted by the hot rod guys as being weak and unreliable. Fast forward 25 years, and with a better understanding of their internals and good aftermarket support, the 200-4r and the 700r4 have both become an excellent choice. Which ever one you choose, you can't go wrong. If space is a premium, go with the 200. If you like a super low 1st gear and you've got the room, go with a 700.

    I like the GM overdrive transmissions, and I run them in whatever I can. Gas 'aint cheap, and I like hauling *** in the fast lane.
     

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