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  1. marty1835
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    ok here is an easy one. beer is at stake so......what year did turn signals become factory standard or needed by law???

    there are 30 very cold ones on the line :)

    thabnks
     
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  4. Carter
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    Stolen from some website I just found doing a Yahoo search.

    Buick was the first U.S. automaker to offer factory-installed flashing turn signals. Introduced in 1939 as a safety feature, the new-fangled feature was advertised as the "Flash-Way Directional Signal" operated from a switch on the new "Handi-shift" column-mounted shifter. The flashing signals only operated on the rear lights. In 1940 Buick enhanced the directional indicators by extending the signals to front lights and adding a self-canceling mechanism. That year directional signals became standard on Buick, Cadillac, LaSalle, and the Hudson Country Club vehicles and optional on Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac (for a cost of $7.95), Hudson (for $10), and Packard.
     
  5. 49ratfink
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    53 was the first year for Chevrolet as standard equipment (I think)
     
  6. Here in Alabama I don't think they are required even today. I seldom see anyone use them...:mad:
     
  7. skidro69
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    Amen^^^^^^^^^^^. Those are tourist tho.
     
  8. marty1835
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    ok now i am down 15 beers. what year did it become law? i am on a budget so help me out
     
  9. vwdave30
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    my 62 ford unibody truck didnt come with any. only has one tailight. the passenger side tailight has a block off plate behind the lense.
     
  10. The modern turn signal was patented in 1938
     
  11. Gearhead Graphics
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    vwdave. Your uni got ripped off!

    Pretty sure they were required by 61
     
  12. Larry T
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    The law is state by state.

    Texas

    Subsection A (turn signals) does not apply to a passenger car or
    truck less than 80 inches wide manufactured or assembled before the
    model year 1960.
     
  13. my 52 had them but another friends 52 same model didnt have them I had ele wipers
    and his had vac. I know by 55 everthing had blinkers. like 12 volt
     
  14. gas4blood
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    My '41 Caddy had them as standard equipment.

    There is no one answer, you had two questions. As Larry T said, the law of requirement varies by state. In Kansas it was 1973.

    Did you win any beer?
     
  15. Hnstray
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    I believe it was 1954 that they became standard equipment on all American cars.......

    I seem to recall that "fact" from years ago, but cannot at the moment think how I can prove it. :)


    Ray
     
  16. Mr48chev
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    From looking at this it looks like New York required turn signals on all four corners starting with 1953. http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/cr79.pdf

    Scroll down to page 41. I would imagine that 52 was the first year New York state required turn signals from reading that.

    Personally I'd have to think that even though the law doesn't didn't require them or two tail or brake lights on earlier models it would be wise and prudent to run them. The exception possibly being a fully restored to showroom stock early model that didn't offer a second tail light or stop light from the factory. That dumb shit on his cell phone behind you may have never seen someone actually use hand signals and go to pass you when you slow down to turn left. In this town sticking your hand out the window might get you shot by some banger who thought you were flipping him off.
     
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  17. marty1835
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    mr48chevy--thank you very much. i managed to salvage a 12 pack!!!

    thanks again!!!!!
     
  18. NashRodMan
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    LOL, this was too funny! Now ya gotta share with those that helped you! :-O
     
  19. marty1835
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    here is to a productive saturday!!
     

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  20. no Genesee cream ale ??????
     
  21. That stuff isn't beer..:rolleyes:
     
  22. TBARA Wildchild
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    Sorry guys, But we locals in Florida don't use turn signals to piss off then tourists!!!!!!!!!:p:D:rolleyes:
     
  23. Or drive with one on all the time!,,of course that's done in every state. :D HRP
     
  24. nali
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    In France, we had those called "fleches de direction" ( arrows ). I ve never seen any US car with it. Did this exist or was it Europe specific ?
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  25. Carter
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    Generally called semaphores in the US. Don't think they were used here, though I have seen them on VW's. Read somewhere that they were factory installed on model A's in Germany, I think.

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  26. technically, turn signals were required by law way earlier, but they were hand signals.
     
  27. nali
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    Thanks Carter. Funny, semaphore is the same name as the mechanical signals used with trains years ago. I just remembered .
     
  28. Carter
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    I think the shape of them was actually a scaled down version of the actual railroad signals.

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  29. nali
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    Quite off topic, but relative, in France rail road signal are lights, like on car roads ( not exactly the same ), but are still named "semaphores".
     
  30. Engine man
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    The non use of turn signals has become widespread. People who do use them often don't turn them on until after they start turning. In drivers ed we were taught that turn signals were used to warn the drivers behind you that you will be slowing to turn so the signal should be used well before hitting the brakes.

    I hear that NHTSA is considering requiring amber signals instead of red because studies show that they decrease rear end collisions. I don't see how it will help if nobody uses them correctly.
     

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