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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by prince_of_darkness, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. prince_of_darkness
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    I'd like to have a set of factory steels widened by a few of inches. I'd like to retain the stock center caps while getting a few wtfs? Does anyone know who might do this sort of thing in the Denver area? (preferably) [​IMG]
    The wheels are for a '64 Triumph Herald and are 13"X4.5". The guys over in England call it 'banding'. I'd never heard of it before, but it doesn't surprise me. Looks easy to do if you have the right equipment. I'd like to do something similar as the pic, but not quite as drastic.
     
  2. pimtina
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    They're not near Denver, but Diamond Racing Wheels in Milwaukee, Wi can build you a set up to 12 inches wide. I had them make me a set for my Cortina. I cut out my centers send 'em in and a few weeks later I had 4 13" X5.5" wheels.
    Google them!
     
  3. Try Wheel Vintiques?? maybe??
     
  4. sevenevez
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    ^ i agree with pimtina. I am also from Milwaukee 414 ( i am in az now ) and recommend DRW. However most metro craigslist cities you will find local companies that repair wheels and some do higher end "re-barreling" of custom sizes and offsets.
     
  5. Just find out where the local 4 X 4 hotshots get their wheels widened.
     
  6. second fiddle
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    I'm in the process now of doing my own. I have mags on my car now but like the plain steel wheels look. The trouble is, Ford never had built a car rim wider than 6" and I like 8's on the rear. The center section of the 15" Ford car rim is 13 1/4", same as the
    Chevy truck rim that were available 8"s wide.........see where I'm going!
     
  7. porkchop4464
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    Joe Sulpy's Custom Auto would do those fo yous. I had seen him do them when I worked for him years ago. I know Joe is semi retired, and used to work out of a shop in NJ; but the son is still doing the same stuff and a pretty damn good job of it. Don't know where his shop is, but if you type the name in Google and search, you'll find him; or maybe someone will chime in with a current address and info? MAn is he pure talent!
     
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    Call Jimmie over at Rallyamerica.com Surely he can help and he's an Alliance Vender!
     
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  13. chaddilac
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    Drill the valve stem hole before paint/powdercoat!!:rolleyes:
     
  14. prince_of_darkness
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    Thanks guys, I'll give a couple of these guys a call. :)
     
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  16. BarryA
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    Did mine about the same way, but didn't have a spare hub/spindle handy, so I cobbled something together where I did it right there on the truck.
    I used this to turn the wheel while cutting part way through the rim with a zip disc on an angle grinder (mounted in a drill press vise with feed)
    Then drilled out the rivets, pressed the centres out before cutting through the rest of the way on the bench. Rolled a strip of same thickness flatbar and welded up the hoops.
    Pressed the centres back in and true'd up on the hub again before welding.
    Drilled the valve hole before powder coating.

    Took about 2 hours per wheel, and balanced easily (one only took 5 grams!)
    I would rather send out, but the local guy doing this is getting on and the last set he did for me were pretty rough!
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2013
  17. prince_of_darkness
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  19. Country Gent
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    Guys, your a little too late. Started my wheel widening business in 1979; Steel wheels only. Have done over 1000 wheels and never had a return or problem with wheels done by my recommendations. There aint nothing wrong with banded, welded wheels. I was known as the "Wheelman" DBA Wheel Man Enterprises. Quallity work was my product, mostly in the state of Florida. Dune buggies, off road racers, drag racers, street rods, hot rods and mud racers I built 20 inch wide wheels for.Gottin up in years and the eyesight not like it used to be, along with putting up with "Cheapos" made me retire from the business. "Dont Even Think About It" You can't twist my arm to do any. Sorry!! As a direction to check on, a number of years ago I met a fella from NJ who did a excellent job. The shops name was Wheelworks or Wheelshop. It was actually a motorcycle shop that did this service. Might be still around. Good luck. :cool::) It's great to be a part of this following on the HAMB.
     
  20. prince_of_darkness
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    I just got off the phone with Jim. Sounds like a pretty nice guy. Looks like I'm going to go the re-hooping route over adding bands. Thanks guys.
     
  21. Sounds like a plan, banding wheels was very popular in the 60/70's but was actually banned and illegal in the UK from the late 70's as many were done with bad welding with bad consequences!
    With the yearly MOT check ( road worthiness check) they all pretty diss appeared with a few years.

    Re-hooping deffo the way to go,
     
  22. Moon Rocket
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    I'm running banded wheels on the rear of my 56 now. There is a feller in the Calhoun, GA area that does a nice job and very reasonably.
     
  23. Pewsplace
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    Eric Vaughn in Pasadena, Ca can do your wheels and he is an expert at banding. He owned Real Wheels in the past and has a wheel business/ machine shop.
     
  24. His H.A.M.B. name is wheelkid. He made some nice wheels for me.
     
  25. whats the guys name in calhoun ga?
     
  26. I used the same method doing wider/different offset wheels for stock cars. Used the front hub on the car to check runout... no indicator. Used a jack stand and a matchbook cover to get the runout to a minimum. They always balanced out pretty well too.

    Bob
     

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