I've a chance ta pick up a '66 Mercury 427 C6 dirt cheap.... Are these things like the 390s, torquer motors, but short on hp, unless ya wana spend big $$$ Would this be nothin' but a fuel guzzlin pig, in an Abomb frame/modified? At something 600 lbs would this work over a '46 front axel and spring? Thanx,
Are you sure it's not a 428. 428s are lo-po gas hounds in stock form but 427s are a different story. Billy
yeah, what he said-ummm. FRIGGIN BUY IT- thats what Ford/Merc primarily used for racing in the 60's. The one down side is the 427 can only be bored over .030 I believe, but if its a good running motor, scarf it up man, even if you decide not to use it right now, or ever...
Hell, even if it is bored .030 over, grab it. Unless the block is cracked, some drag racer would be interested. Just sleeve it and build the shit out of it. But I agree with the 428 comments. Either that or something is seriously wrong with it. Or, you are just damned lucky and found a needle in the haystack. I'm hoping for the latter. Best of luck.
If he doesn't take it I'm on it. A friend of mines got a 428 crank thats been waiting for a decent 427 side oiler to come along Oh yeah, that thing will never work in your car, it needs to be in my 34 for sure. Really, let me know if you pass on it. Drew
Somthing just occured to me, I don't remember if Henry ever put a slush box behind a real deal World Beater,hmmmm None the less, if its a 427, I'll take it. Drew
Can I have all the 428's you guys don't want? My friends 68 Mustang with a swapped 428CJ/toploader 4 speed did OK... I'd drop in a 428 in place of my 350 any day of the week. This is a good spot to ask a question about those 427's... I've read in several places that 427's NEVER came in Mustangs. (Shelby yes.) Supposedly just a rumor...no 427's left the factory door. I checked out an ad back in 1977 for a 68 Fastback GT with 427 emblems on the fenders. The body was beat from rust but it looked original. Buddy said it was a 427/4 speed too. The Holley carb(!) and the air breather (Ram air maybe?) had been stolen off of it so the guy was getting rid of it before more damage was done. It was in an apartment parking lot so it was ripe for picking over... I DIDN'T buy it! Young and poor...and dumb. Could that have really been a 427 Mustang or was it just a 390/428 with false badging? I've always wondered about that car. A week later it was gone. Still kick myself over not checking the car out further...
My dad had a 66 Galaxy with a 428 Cobra Jet in it with a 4 speed.The car was a tank, rode like a Cadillac, but had serious power!Would smoke the shit outta the rear tireS!Now he has a 63 Galaxy with a built 427(now its 472") with an automatic.Again, heavy ass car, but goes sideways when you get on it, without powerjackin it!I would say they run pretty good, and in a Model A rod,should go down the block boilin the tires till you let off,or hit sumthin,LOL!
Nope with two minor exceptions. A few Thunderbolts were built with the Lincoln automatic tranny to run in S/SA. Also, The Lo-Po hydraulic cammed 427 used in a few early '68 Mustangs (pre 428 CJ) only came with a C6 , as I recall. Jan
you could get a slushbox behind a 427- 68 Shelbys could be had with a 427 and a C6... Fairlanes and galaxies also had the option I believe... you can now get a SFI approved FE bell housing to mate to a C4- Peformance Automatics has it
You could very well be right! It was almost 30 years ago and I MIGHT be confusing my friends 4 speeder with this one! I didn't even sit in it... Can't remember if it was an early model 68 or not (Rear sidemarkers were different, correct?) but I'd bet money your on the mark. At least I'm not nuts for seeing a 427 Mustang! LoL So this was a "low performance" version of the 427? Quite a bit different than a "good" 427 I suppose...knowing how Ford liked to specialize their engines to confuse the regular guy! Was the 428CJ better than the low-po 427's or were they just standardizing the engine options a little? I'd like either of those...
A cam later - it runs the right way. 427's flat suck. Where was it again? You didn't leave the guys #...
The best part of the 428 is the crank and rods to stuff in a 427. I'd take one any old day of the week though. The lo-po 427 had different headsand intakes, if I remember right. If it's a 66' and its really a 427 it should be a side oiler block though. Drew
There's a 99% chance it's not a 427. Most people can't tell the difference between a 390 and a 427. Only a few dozen '66 cars came with the 427 before the 428 was used, if it's supposed to be the original motor. The 427 lived on a couple more years in Shelbys and '68 Cougar GTE's (marine until 1973). Look for the main cap crossbolts in the block side, 3 above each pan rail (5/8 hex head). An original 427 car with the original 427 would be worth over $20K. A running 427 engine would bring $3-4K in low riser form, more if a high riser.
I just built a 427 SO. It was a marine motor, but I changed ALL the internals, so it doesn't matter. It did have a crack that got welded up and a sleve. Now it's 488 CID with dual quads, 10.6-1 compression and a solid lifter .600" cam. Runs like stink in my '66 Fairlane 2dr post. I kept it a sleeper with the dog dish caps, Wimbeldon white paint, bench seat and a 427 style hood. Oh, it has original paint except for the wheels and hood. Original 6cyl car with 45,000 showing on the clock. I paid $2000 for the marine motor, complete except for the carb and exhaust.
427s were just about the baddest engines Ford ever built. Boss 429s were more exotic, and 4V 351Cs just didn't have enough cubes. They didn't make many, you should scarf it up. Make sure that's what it is first. They made about a billion 352/390s, and 428s aren't even all that rare. The 406s and 427s are the rare FEs. The 427s were available with 410 or 425hp (2x4-barrel) in '66 Mercurys. It should have solid lifters.
The 427 was the third most bad ass motor that FORD built 1st was the Mavrick Straight 6, then the early Taurus V6's. So you really do not want that old hunk of 427 iron, what did you say that guys number was... (The most bad assed FORD's I think would be the DOHC Indy motor and the SOHC 427 Big block)
My friends 428 CJ came from some kinda Mercury...thinking about it, the big spline top loader in his car actually came from a 429CJ parts pile. That Merc may have been automatic originally. I know it was a blast to drive around in with the 4 speed behind it!!! Later he put a 351C in the car...not sure why...and now someone else owns it. No idea why the 428CJ was pulled or where it is now. Didn't hear it "blowed up" or anything though. Hmmmmmm....... AMAZING how the camp is so divided...the 427 was a great engine or a DOG!!! NO middle ground! whats up with that? Its very interesting. I've always read it was one of Fords better ideas...but have no personal experience with them, just the 428CJ. WHAT made it a DOG to the 428? I mean...cross bolted mains and all? Sounds like a beast to me! Wish I hadda gone over that Mustang a little better...but no cash, 1st year autobody apprentice and living home...dad woulda popped me right in the nose!!! LoL
Yeah, those 427 Shelby's were dogs....rode in one once...my brother was doing a cosmetic restoration on it...barely made 130 MPH at the end of a short on ramp at I-894 and Greenfield Ave. in Milwaukee...real dog. 427's came in four head configurations...low riser, medium riser, high rise and tunnel port configurations. I owned three of the four many years ago. Just hope it's not a tunnelport...really rare...Pep Boys doesn't have parts...barley enought HP to smoke the tires at 100 MPH...
I don't think I've ever heard anyone call a 427 a "Dog" not even the Chevy guys, especially not to a 428. Just ask Enzo what he thinks of them(circa 1965-68 I think those were the years) when he said he would never loose the LaMans to an "American Car" Or the Max wedge car with the sign on it that said "We won this with a Ford" displayed in the showroom of a Ford dealership when Mopar swore no one could beat thier 426. The 427 IMHO is probably the ultimate production powerplant never again to be rivaled. Killed by the gas and smog wars may it's memory still live on among the remaining true blue Ford men. Of course I'm a little biased since my earlyest memories are of riding in my dads plain jane 427 "k" code "custom 300" car with two fours under the hood(not factory "k" was singe four verson) on skinny stock wheel primered spots and dents. A true sleeper and fairly well known aroung Escondido in the 70's and 80's. Anyway here I go reminising(sp?), sorry for the rant, heres a scan of the only photo I could find. Drew
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