early corvette Blue Flame 3 carb set up ?

Run the Vette stuff ,the 3 X2s will be a pain on a mild motor on the street. The Vette with stock settings will work flawlessly.

 

This makes me think of back when I was a teenager, doing landscaping for a skinflint local car dealership owner. I worked for him for quite a long time, and he had steel buildings on his property. Two of them, Big, high-dollar, very secure steel buildings.

He opened one of them for me one day, and showed me the contents.

Inside were dozens of vintage cars, all on carpeted jack stands, all with trickle chargers on the batteries, in a climate controlled building.

It seems old Andy Suski was quite the collector- as was his dad- and whenever a new model came along that caught his eye, he would have it delivered to his barn, where it sat, brand new- for the rest of his days.

One of these cars happened to be a first year Vette- as beautiful and original as the day it rolled off the line-a Blue Flame six under the hood- with an odometer that read 11 miles.

I have to wonder what that brand-new, 60 year old car is worth today. It is hard to imagine, or to even grasp a guess as to what it would go for- as it is surely the only example of its kind in existence.

 

Run the vette stuff

I love ******* off corvette guys. The look on some of there faces when they see my 6 air cleaners is priceless

 

PS: The big question, run the Corvette set up OR the harper? I love some of the problems in my life![/QUOTE]

Run the Vette set-up...WAY cooler look, and much more unusual!
Cream Ridge? I go through there to visit my sister's florist shop in Allentown.
Going to build a custom? What's next?

 

x2. Those air cleaners are out of the ball park!

Did the Harper come with the deal, too?
Is the Harper complete (split-shaft carbs/linkage)?
If so, you may need to start planning a second build!

 

No, I had the Harper for a few years, bought it at an estate sale for 65.00. Didn't know what it was but I knew I wanted it ! It has one br*** linkage piece bolted to it and one old 94. That is actually how I found the HAMB, looking for info on it.

I think for now I am going to re ***emble the car and make it driveable. I like the old paint, clean up the interior, get brakes & suspension sorted. It came with a set of steelies, chrome centercaps, bullett lugnuts and new firestone WW tires. I'll paint the wheels and put all that on.

Doesn't the sunvisor make it custom? I think dropping the roof would be way cool but also way beyond my abilities. I have a few things to finish up before I can get into this one too deep, I wasn't looking for another project, it just came along.


Cheers!

PS: I'll probably start a new thread on the car.

 

There is a good tech article on here on how to make air cleaners very similar to the Corvette air cleaners.
One day I plan on making me some for my setup


(All original corvette cleaners I have seen for sale are priced pretty high)

 

same carbs as a corvair spyder.

 

OH MY GOD!!! You have a Harper and a Vette intake??? I officially hate you! Haha nice score man


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LOL. Lazlo', I'm not sure you realize just what you've got!
The Corvette parts alone would pay for most project Chevys.
Hell, the exhaust manifold alone, for that matter!

What's the story?

 

First of all, congratulations to Lazlo! With that coupe I would run that beautiful Corvette set-up! Agree that you kind of have to find another project (hopefully open engine bay) for the Harper.

Here's my 'Holy Grail', three parts at least. Corvette triple intake, Corvette dual exhaust, and the '848 head'.



Good luck with your decisions and projects Lazlo. Any chance you'll make it to The Jalopy Showdown? Love to see that in person!!!!!! 6 exclamations intended,

Cosmo49

 

Awesome find!! Congratulations. Go with the Vette tripower. They look great and perform just as well. Sport coupes, like yours, are getting hard to find (especially in the condition of yours). You nailed that one.

If you plan to run the Vette exhaust manifold and keep the parking brake, there could be some interference between the rod and exhaust pipe. Small matter but worth mentioning.

Lots of pix's please.

 

Thank you all mucho!

ther isn't too much story, I was drivng home from somewhere, p***ed a local s**** yard and saw a 50 or 51 busniess coupe. Complete out of the barn, looked unmolested but a little rusty, interior shot. I turned around to ask Tommy ( the yard owner) what was up with it. He said he picked it up might do something with it, might sell. He then said the old lady he got it from signed the ***le in the wrong place and he ended up spending someting like 825 on a new ***le. I said if he was in that deep for the paper , we were on different planets. ( I think it could be had about 2500ish, not bad but I didn't need another project, Blacys auto parts http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Blaceys.U.Pick.Auto.Parts.609-758-8737 )

Anyway I went o to Fleabay to see what these were going for as I kinda like them and saw the one I have listed. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1951...2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&forcev4exp=true

It was only about 2 hours from home so I called the guy and asked if I could come look, said I'd bring cash and a trailer if I liked it. He said sure, come now, I was unable to do it right then and he said someone was coming that night to look at it.
I thought about it, decided the 'vett set up and parts and condition of the car ( if it was as he said) was a great deal. Hit the buy it now. The car is better than expected and the parts....well my full size pick up witha cap was absolutely stuffed, the inside of the car was stuffed, the trunk was stuffed. I had to strap the trailer spare tire and hand truck to the trailer ramp, no room anywhere.

I'm in the middle of ***embling a B motor for my '31 A roadster, made a few threads about that one, doing a " rustoration" on a '53 cushman Highlander and ***embling a restored '63 barry Toycraft promotional corvette go kart thing.
I have 2 motor swaps to do on other cars ( i easy '73 z-28, 1 unsure '72 Merc Benz for a good friend, wish I never signed up for that) then I can work on the '51.

The 51 has a rebuilt rear with 3:55 gears, updated bearings, taper bearings on from axles, needs brakes installed, all new parts included, motor & trans installed, interior work, headliner, seat covers. carpet, maybe door panels. Paint steel wheels, mount tires, drive.

Love to make the showdown! I generally have lots of time so that isn't a trouble.

 

you were on the right Ebay page at the right time. Nice score!!!

 

Thanks, Lazlo. Given the rarity of the parts, it's nice to know how they make the rounds. Including the E-Bay ad was way cool!

 

Your kidding me...

Your forgot to mention suit case of cash that was hidden under the rear seat too.

 

Er, how didja know about that?

 

I installed a '54 corvette intake & exhaust setup on my '54 BelAir 12/13 years and 30,000+ miles ago. On a '54 a C shape must cut out of the driver's side vertical firewall brace, make it large enough to get a wrench on the rear head bolt. Dent a small relief in the firewall to clear the 3rd carb choke linkage. The 3-gang choke cable will need to be shortened about 18-24 in. For starting the use of the choke is needed to draw fuel to the carbs. When setting the choke cable up, make sure all 3 choke blades are in the closed position, when the choke is pulled out. Set the float levels a bit higher than the instructions state and use a fuel regulator @ 3.-3.5 lbs. A 12 volt system is needed, twice when the car was parked at a down angle, it has flooded, and a big 6 volt battery can't spin it fast enough to clear. The muffler man said the vette exhaust manifold made the headpipe work very simple.
Hope some of this helps, Dyno Dave

 

You realize there is nothing special about the 848 head right? Most common 235 head made.

You must mean the actual vette head right?

 

^^^^^^ true. If an 848 head is special then I've got a gold mine in my shop. Have 10 of them not on motors and another 5 attached to motors.


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the 848 head has the smallest chamber of the heads available for the 235/261. They usually sell for $200-400 as is- yes, you struck some gold there!

 

Lazlo, I'll probably get chewed out for suggesting this, but man, I'd sell that vette set up. It's worth a fortune. I mean you could probably get the car on the road and be into for basically free after selling it off. Vette guys drive me nuts, but Vette guys are also nuts. They'll pay up big time for that set up. If you'd like, send me a pm, I have at least 3 clients that would cough up some ching to have than their 53.

 

Great score. Anybody know the combustion chamber volumes of those 'vette heads? I have info on some others but not those:

3836848 - 79.1 cc
3835913 - 86.2 cc
3836850 - 86.2 cc
3703570 - 95.5 cc

 

Hey Dave, thanks for the info, I might be picking your brain if thats ok.

My carbys have had all the choke plates, shafts and what not removed, I'd like to replace all that with sotck parts if possible. Any ideas on where to find that? Why would it have been removed? Race ap?

I have a NOS choke cable, the guy said it was worth like 500.00? I'd hate to cut up something like that....

Cheers!

 

Why would the chokes have been removed? Because everybody knows that you'll make another 100 horsepower if you rip as many pieces as possible off of your carbs and throw them away...at least, that must have been the at***ude for thousands of people who spent their lives screwing up cars had. Keep your eyes open for YH carbs from early to mid '50s Nash sixes; they had automatic chokes, but some of the parts will work and they're cheaper than trying to buy actual 'vette carbs. Same goes for Corvair Spyder/Corsa carbs.

 

That's nuts! I buy complete running 235's with 848 heads for $100. Send those people paying $200+ for just a head my way!! Ha


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Lazlo, I got my carb kits, choke cable and fuel lines from Grossmuellers Vette. Some small carb linkage parts from the Vette Gal. I ran remote oil lines to bracket mounted on the core support and use a S-10 long filter, the early Vettes did'nt use a filter, just changed your oil every 3000 miles... As to why the choke plates and shafts are removed, I'd think shaft wear would be suspect, be sure check the fit, the choke plates are needed for cold starts. Payed at the time around $130.00 for the cable, the correct Vette knob was another $40-$50.00. You asked about gas milage, to California and back on the stock 1bbl. it got from 14+to 17, I don't check it now, too much fun matting the pedal. There reprints of Chevy service bulletins covering the early Vettes and the carb kit will info on linkage set-up and carb adjustments. The set up is some fun eye candy, has a polished Chevrolet valve cover and side plate, use a Joe Hunt magneto and don't run a hood, lots of pictures taken and many enjoyable BS sessions...Again hope this helps, Dyno Dave

 

Thanks Dave ! I'l go deep when I get into it butwill be keeping an eye out for the chole bits. I couldn't resist but to start a new thread on the car. It is difficult to keep me paws off it, but there are other things that need attention.

Cheers!

 

Laslo - the choke plates from the early Nash carbs are the same as those used on the 2066s. The choke shaft ***emblies from the 2066s are unique to the 2066s as the other YH carbs used auto chokes. The shaft could be used, but one would have to fabricate the arms and other choke linkage.

When buying kits, you might re-read my comments posted earlier concerning YH "generations". If someone lists one kit fitting all the various different YH carbs, avoid it.

Jon.

 

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That "special cam" used in the early
'Vette 235 Blue Flame 6 was also the
exact same cam that was used in
the '55 through '62 Canadian Pontiac
p***enger car 261 six.

Mart3406
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