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348 in a 1957 Chevy Napco Truck Ideas

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by donsz, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. donsz
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    I have a 1957 Chevy Napco truck (see avatar) with a 283 and 3 speed OD trans. Now that it is done, I would like to swap out the 283 with a 348 I have (1965), that I will re-build to a tri-power configuration. Also, I think I would like to install T5 trans at the same time. The 283 is my third engine and is just fine, but I just want a "W" motor, "just because." I was wondering if anyone has experience with this swap. It seems like the exhaust to steering box clearance is an issue. But, I think that the 348 was an option in 1958/59 trucks. So I'm wondering if there was something different about the exhaust or steering box for those years. Also, I think that the 348 should hook up to the V8 bell housing that I have now. And if that is true, then a T5 should mate OK? I'm guessing I may have to do something with the yoke/drive shaft though. Any thoughts would be great.Thanks,
    don
     
  2. bobwop
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    why wouldn't you stay with the stick/OD? I love those trannies. And it would be a very easy swap, too.
     
  3. amodel25
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    Not familiar with a Napco. Is the transfer case entirely seperate from the main transmission?
     
  4. 56sedandelivery
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    You can use the same flywheel, clutch ***embly, and there should be plenty of room for exhaust (not like in some p***enger cars, 55-57). I'd stick (no pun intended) with the same trans also, but they are weak. I once snapped the input shaft just leaving a stoplight "normally", with a 265 in front of it. It's a separate transfer case right? There should be no problem using a different trans then, but you have to change the yoke and possibly modify the driveshaft to the transfer case. Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  5. black 62
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  6. donsz
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    Yes, a truck block, last year of manufacture, I believe. According to the 348/409 site a good one to rebuild. The transfer case is divorced, ****er 23, stock NAPCO component for that year.
    don
     
  7. black 62
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  8. Don't know any specifics but it seems an awesome repower.
     
  9. an1951
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    A 1965 348 chevy engine? Maybe up to 1964 in a truck only.

    From Wikipedia:

    The first ever production big block V8 Chevrolet engine was the "W" series, released in 1958 for p***enger car and truck use. This engine was an Overhead valve design, with offset valves and unique scalloped rocker covers, giving it a distinctive appearance. The "W" series was produced from 1958 to 1965, with three displacements offered: 348 cubic inches (5.7 L), available from 1958 to 1961 in cars and through 1964 in trucks; 409 cubic inches (6.7 L), available from 1961 to 1965; and 427 cubic inches (7.0 L), available only in 1963.

    Website-interesting stuff:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Big-Block_engine

    My 2 cents worth and I'm A Chevy Drag Racing Fanatic.......
     
  10. I have a 58/9 Big truck with a W in it. I'd take pics, but unless you like winter scenes, it won't do you any good at this time. (the snow is still overwhelming in my yard)
     
  11. raengines
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    back in 65 I put a tri-power 348 in a 55 chevy wagon to tow my race car with, fit like it was born there.
     
  12. 38Chevy454
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    I like the idea. It should fit wiothout too many troubles, worse case is you have to fab up some exhaust headers custom, but a stock manifold could probably be found to fit with the steering box. The T-5 will give nice shifting and one more gear. Your stock bellhousing may have a different size bearing retainer size. Not sure what size you have if it is the larger truck size I presume? I think you can get a ring to fit the space.

    Being a divorced ransfer case, your concern is just the length. T-5 should hold up to 348 if you drive reasonable.
     
  13. cavman
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    My brother (since p***ed) once put a 348 with a BW 4 speed in his 57 Cameo, he really liked it. It fit well and worked well. He later tried a 427, and then a 6.5 turbo diesel.

    Let us know how it works for you. Them old Napco's are neat.
     
  14. chickenridgerods
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    The W-engine was an option in the big trucks (grain trucks, dump trucks, COEs, etc); not available in the smaller trucks.

    A '65 date coded 348 would have been a replacement.
     
  15. donsz
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    Thanks, great info. I expect to re-build the 348 soon. I'll have to "noodle" the 3 speed OD vs. T5. I feel better about the swap now, it appears to be a reasonable project.
     
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  17. jbo13
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    The napco stuff is pretty rare I would keep if you can
     
  18. 40 & 61 Fords
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    Do you have an engine yet? I just went by the Kottkes' Bus Service garage (763-331-0590) in Andover on Friday, and they have an older bus for sale in the back lot that is marked as having a 348 if you are looking.
     
  19. bulletproof1
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    i have a 57 chevy bus with a 348...the motor mounts are home made ....someone needs it ...
     
  20. donsz
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    I do have the engine already, thanks though.
    don
     
  21. donsz
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    The engine is now just about ready, I intend to install it when it gets a little warmer here in Minnesota. I expect the header and steering box interference issue. I'm sure a few more things will emerge, but I think I will really like it when done. As usual, this was much more expensive than I thought, even though I did get an excellent deal on the machine shop work.
    don
     

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  22. Poh
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    Wellllll, if you decide you dont need that, It would sure look purty in my Sport Coupe!
     
  23. WOW, now I understand!
     
  24. Deuces
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    That's a beautiful motor...:)
    How about a few more shots of the Napco???
    Thanks in advance...
     
  25. Twinpilot001
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    cant be a 348 in 65!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep the truck like it is!!
     
  26. squirrel
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    348 was available in 60 and 80 series trucks in 1965.

    I think I would have done some mocking up to figure out the exhaust/steering solution before building the engine....but I expect you'll figure out something. Beautiful engine!

    I would not mess with the T5, it's a rather lame transmission for a *****in old 4x4. And you should be ok with the 3.90 gears and 4 speed if you have decent sized tires on the truck.
     
  27. JD Miller
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    The GMC 4x4 trucks 55 - 59 etc had Pontiac V8s in them
     
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