Can you guys explain in detail why i feel like crap after welding

As i have gotten older that is. I never had these issues when i was growing up and spent a great deal of time in my dads machine shop around arc welding, brazing and soldering.

For some reason the last few years i had to do any welding with my MIG i feel horrible minutes after and it doesnt matter if i am doing 4 tacks or 50 beads i feel the same regardless.

Lat night i had the window open and exhaust fan and it didnt do a thing to help me.

I feel very jittery as if electricity is going through my body at a low pulse or something. Feel tingling in my hands. Dizzy and just plain out of it. I also noticed i get badly comstipted from welding after long fabrication sessions.

Ive be tried using a rspirator but it seems to me the levels of radiation or the sheilding gas are the culprit. No idea why my body has become so sensitive

 

They finally started makin us wear hoods with filtered forced air at Deere.There is nooo doubt that the fumes are toxic!!! You need to talk to a professional to see what you can do to prevent this! DO IT NOW!!!! I have welded all my life and it says right on the can of welding rod I have burned a million pounds of that it is cancer causing! SEEK HELP NOW!!!

 

I worked as a welder in a factory for a while,,, don't know if it was true or not, but the suprivisor used to tell us to drink milk,,,he explained why, but I cant rember why for shit..lol

 

From what I've read the main culprit is manganese dust can cause any of the following.
I have to confess,I don't have a clue as to what some of these miladies are. HRP

asthenia;
dry throat and cough;
dyspnea;
encephalopathy;
fatigue;
fever;
insomnia;
lower back pain;
malaise;
mental confusion;
metal fume fever;
paralysis;
rales;
spastic gait;
tightness in the chest;
vomiting;
weakness

 

Drinking milk is really important especially when welding galvanized metal. The chemicals used in galvanizing can cause galvanic cell poisoning. Rod

 

Drinking milk helps if you get "smoked" while welding galvanized steel.

 

Guys so ar the symptoms im getting normal and if so how do you guys cope?

I forgot,to memtion if my friend is over i make him weld i feel fine even if i am. Few feet from him and smell the smoke. As soon as i hold the mig gun its a different story.

This really sucks because i am such a good fabricator

 

Do a google search on fume fever you can get it from welding and grinding metal especially galvanized , got something it do with zinc I think

 

I never work with galvanized unless 40-60 year old american cars metal has this poison in it. I was thinking maybe high levels of lead are released from welding old steel?

 

zinc jitters. drink plenty of milk and use a respirator from now on, for chrissakes. i grind the zinc off galvanised whenever i have to weld it now. it's a pain in the ass, but it's better than feeling like dookie the next day.

 

I don't know how many years you've welded but like many toxic elements, sometimes the body doesn't eliminate them fast enough and you start storing them. Your body may telling you that it can't handle any more of it or it will turn into something evil. If that's the case, the solution is to stop welding and get some Chelation therapy which removes them. After a break from welding and some Chelation you can go back to welding and get loaded up again for a few years, then repeat the cycle.....unless doc says no. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy

 

You need to see a doctor! You're not welding zink and there isn't a lead issue with old steel. It could be an issue with the magnetic field put off by the machine, I don't know, I'm not a doctor, but don't fuck around See one. Your symptoms are not normal, or something to get used to!

 

I agree the machine is giving off something in such high levels my body cant take it, magnetic field, raditor whatever

What sort,of Dr do,you see amd ask about this stuff? Most family dr are dummies and wouldnt have a clue

 

In your case, and reading that ^...

I wonder if it is the electromagnetic effects?

If there are a lot of metal shavings from grinding on the floor, and your cables lay on it, you can see the shavings have aligned on the floor. Strong enough to move shavings closer to the leads.

Maybe?

 

Dinking milk makes it so you don't get galvanize poisoning!

 

Go see a doctor!
Good answers on welding or cutting on galvanized materials, we learned many years ago that drinking milk BEFORE and AFTER will neutralize chilling effects, like having Malaria.
Welding since 1951----Don

 

Guys i cant drink milk. Lactose intollerant. Few months back when i got my millermatic 211 the first day i fired it upmi felt sick and my buddy forced me to drink milk which had no effect except sending me to the can

What sort of dr will have the most knowledge over something of this nature?

 

You can develop sensitivity to chemicals through prolonged exposure as well. I never had a problem with gas until I hit my 40's, all of a sudden I was having nasty reactions to it. For the last ten years, I have been real careful to avoid getting it on my hands and exposed skin. Its your bodys way of saying "WAKE UP DUMBASS!!" I agree 100% with the guys who are saying see a Dr.

 

You know what now i think of it i have had so many MRI from acidents over the years and when i get a long MRI for 35min or more i come ouit of the machine feeling very similar to welding. But how the hell am i suppose to prevent this if thats even possible?

 

Long shot but flashing lights can bring on eptileptic seizures. You may be having small seizures while welding.

 

Ya, I vote for seeing a doctor ASAP.

If you're no spring chicken...could be anything.

Possibly not related to the welder...but related to some underlying health issues.

That tinking electric feeling in your limbs could be circulation related...and circulation issues can lead to shock (the medical condition normally brought on by injury) Symptoms related to shock are cold sweats, confusion, weakness, blueing of the lips, anxiety...feeling wonky....

Could be a weird circulation issue caused by blood pressure changes, heart issues.

Could be that you're prone to holding your breath for a long time while welding...that'll make you feel dizzy, deplete oxygen in your blood.

I hold my breath alot and take weird postures while welding...I also hold my breath alot and take weird postures when taking photos...I'm a professional photographer. I often get a weird feeling, like my head is floating away on a balloon...I get the same feeling when welding and when photographing, if I don't remind myself to breath.

Crazy weight-lifters often experience the same thing. That tinking feeling is the last thing they notice before they hit the deck...tits up with 400 lbs in the mix.

I'm saying that, because based on what you're saying...you could be very close to blacking out...for whatever reason. And blacking out in a shop with all the dangerous shit laying around could be fatal...for real.

Could be that the way you posture up your body to weld is causing some underlying condition to show symptoms.

You said you get comstipted...I'm guessing you meant constipated...can't make a successful bomb drop?

That's a very common sign of dehydration...dehydration can also cause shock like symptoms, dizziness, headaches, cold sweats...feeling kookie

Don't use my comments as a way to try and self diagnose...I just want you to realize that I don't think its related to the welder itself or the gas itself...I think something else is up, and it's manifesting for some reason when you weld.

 

Your welder is producing similar magnetic fields as the MRI's your describing, but at a more intense and higher level. Try moving the welder as far away from you when welding and maybe try to make some sort of shielding screen to further help block the magnetic fields from you.

 

Could be any changes to shielding gas, and yes there should not be any galvanizing in mild steel so it shouldn't be metal fume fever. On the other hand the magnetic fields can be messing with your body, I have a friend that has a pacemaker and can not be anywhere near welding as it will send him to the hospital... It is certainly not anything to mess around with. I work in the welding industry and have for a long time, I know the rules are changing for what is considered acceptable for manganese ingestion our factorys are going to have to look hard at how to control weld fume, as I'm sure we should all be aware of the inherent risk's. Keep us posted.

 

Seeing this is a thread about welding, I want to give people the heads up or a reminder never to use brake cleaner for cleaning metal before welding, it can kill you. Had to remind one guy in our shop today, he was about ready to do that.

Hope you can find a solution or cure for your problem 55Thunder. I would be lost if I couldn't weld anymore,

 

wow what an interesting thread, 55 please heed the cautions from all spoken, see a dr.

 

Maybe it is just your particular machine, could be wired or connected incorrectly or a sheild or something else missing.

Why don't you try using a different machine...at a buddy's place or something.

Everybody has a different personal magnetic/electromagnetic field.... and they can alter through your life.
For example
My sister cannot wear a watch on her left arm since she broke it...they either stop or race ahead, yet it is fine on her right wrist or on anybody elses arm...and it isn't just one watch, they all do it.
A guy who used to weld pipelines with us had to keep away from the two way radios, they wouldn't work when he was around..all static. I talked to him a while ago and he told me he cannot use a cellphone, yet he hasn't used a welder since 1994.


I am not saying you are depressed, but this page has other useful info regards detecting and dealing with EMF in the human body.

http://www.altered-states.net/barry/newsletter427/

There is an award winning book called Energy Medicine by Dr Donna Eden , an entire chapter is devoted to Electromagnectics .

 

Give it up and see the doc. Speaking as a 25yr diabetic, sometimes they have some insight.

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A regular doctor will not be stupid enough to miss something like this.

Your symptoms have heart/blood pressure/circulation written all over them.

If the magnetic field from a welder is fucking with your body...somethings wrong with your body...not the welder!!

The longer you wait to get checked, the worse things get when you're dealing with your heart.

 

i have a couple of questions 1st. is it only with mig. have you tried another mig welder, do you stick weld and do you have the same affect , electromagnetic fields are common in stick welding due to the winding of the cables,but not with mig. could be the argon gas,or just a combo of the fumes a resporator only filters out the particals not the gases you also didnt state your age,the older we get the more we change,2nd i would talk to a doctor , i worked as a welder for 12 years ive had zinc poisoning,fever is what you get,not what you state, hope this helps

 

55thunder, do you happen to have a pacemaker?