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Raw metal finish, is it a plus or a minus…traditionally speaking?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Moon Rocket, May 9, 2013.

  1. prewarcars4me
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    There are a lot of things on here that are overly embraced. :rolleyes:

    Thats one. Tilt columns, Ipods (or the like) for stereos, disc brakes seem to be a big no no unless covered up "fake style", ad the list goes on.

    Its not mine (or your) forum, so if its allowed, its allowed. If its not for you, just move one. ot like this forum doesnt have 20 billion other posts to choose from. :D
     
  2. dirtracer
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    I was being sarcastic about it not being allowed on the hamb. Its just odd that the traditional police will burn a guy up for something that is not traditional, because they don't like it. If its not traditional and they do like it it seems to be okay. I don't care what someone does to their car or how they build it. The bottom line is build what you like and who cares what anyone thinks!
     
  3. Rusty O'Toole
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    I'm waiting for bare BONDO to be a finish lol just kidding but I wouldn't be surprised.
     
  4. oldcarguygazok
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    Totally agree,we are individuals with different tastes and ideas and to me that's what builing a car is all about .
     
  5. If it leaves the shop at all in bare metal, it should be a brief stage before the next step. As much as quality metal work gives me a hard on, I think both should be covered in public :eek::D:eek::D
     
  6. mustang6147
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    To me, My car is never done. I love lookin at many styles and colors. It would be boring otherwise
     
  7. ct1932ford
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    Not for me but whatever floats your boat. That's what hot rods are all about. I won't be suprised when guys start painting their fibergl*** cars to look like bare metal:rolleyes: They are already doing the patina thing. Back in the day painted finished rods were what everyone strived for.:cool: Even though most of us could not afford do get to that point.
     
  8. 49ratfink
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    I know a couple of clowns who may have been trying just that. these guys went to R.O.P. body shop cl***, all they seemed to learn was how to mix bondo. covered a 53 F-100 in bondo for reasons only they know.
     
  9. Larry T
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    But not necessarily what Ryan started this board for.

    I've got to admit that when I look at the "mission statement" Ryan posted in 2005 (you've all read it haven't you?), I wonder if the original intent of the board is drifting the way of the dinosaur.

    And, yes, I know I post more off topic stuff than most.
     
  10. tfeverfred
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    It's been like that for a while. That's why I rarely post my T Bucket, unless it's a T Bucket thread and the cars are like mine. It's about the mission statement. I dig traditional rides and that's why I joined, but I don't have one. Yet.

    Oh, the tech stuff is kick ***.;)
     
  11. KRB52
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    If a knight didn't have a squire to polish is armor, he would have the blacksmith heat his armor and pour oil on it to give it a water resisitant finish. Might be an idea for a bare metal look that is traditional. (And no, I am not remembering this technique, just read about it.)
     
  12. Devin
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    Well said. Also the cars being built today are more often than not in much rougher condition initially than in the days of yore. I like painted rods, but if I had the talent and ability to transform a rusted heap int a metal finished object of beauty you could be damned sure I would show it in bare metl for at lest a little while.


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  13. Moon Rocket
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    Interesting opinions. And honestly not exactly what I was expecting to hear.

    I have personally looked a few of these raw metal cars over very closely, and as mentioned earlier, even the best of them are a long way from being ready for a top shelf paint job.

    With so many being published in mags, winning shows etc., I wonder, in say 25 years from now a future generation of Hot Roders will be looking though their old mag collection and debating how “traditional” the raw finish was?

    Just makes a body ponder that today’s innovation is tomorrow’s tradition. It also causes me to ponder just how many cutting edge innovations from the past that made the mags of yesterday are considered “traditional” today?

    Face it, if it made the mags it wasn’t something you saw at every red light

    Now I’m wondering just how “traditional” chopped tops and channeled bodies really were! My guess is they were very much the exception rather than the rule.
     
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  14. kismyss
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    I think that Jimmy Shine from SO CAL speed shop started the bare metal trend with his model A truck. Think he called it Bare Naked. It was really popular at the shows, looked killer.
     
  15. falcongeorge
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    X3. But then very little of what you see ***ociated with "traditional" hot rods today has anything to do with the way it was. Thats why I am trying more and more to subs***ute the phrase "period correct" rather than "traditional". "traditional" is just as abused and mis-used as (wait for it, you KNOW its coming) "g***er". Neither word really has any meaning anymore. They are the favoured buzzwords of Wal-mart hot rod culture.
     
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  16. scrap metal 48
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    Yea, I hate them too.. OH!! wait a minute...
     
  17. tfeverfred
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    And THAT is the correct answer.

    'History gets written everyday. Traditional history gets rewritten everyday."
     
  18. junk yard kid
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    History is written by the winners
     
  19. falcongeorge
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    Its just sad to see so much of our hot rodding heritage being re-written 40-50 years after the fact by "a bunch of winners"...
     
  20. Moon Rocket
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    Hell George, you can't miss what you never had! :D
     
  21. 33sporttruck
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    I am 66 years old, born in 1947. At the age of 13, my Dad got really pissed when I took the luggage rack and basket of of my Schwinn Bike and proceeded to use his hack saw to "Bob" the front and rear fenders. After a strong lecture I preceded to sand the bike and repaint in gloss black (rattle can). I even saved money for a new black and white seat along with new whitewalls. I then hand lettered the chain guard to say "Terror on 2 Wheels" I had been bitten by the bug !!!
    Fast forward to my first car build at age 17-18. It was a 39 Chevy 2-dr with beam axle. Within a year the car was stuffed with a 283 and Glide with a 55 Chevy rear. I saved and worked to put this car on the road before the term "Street Rod" was invented. The 39 was considered to new at the time to really be a "Traditional Build" To everyone that saw it, it was just an old car. Many times I would go on a date and wind up explaining to her father that the car was indeed safe. Those were Good Days.
    The point I would like to make is that nothing that I have owned or worked on was complete until the paint job was on and the interior was done. I do not remember "patina, faux-tina or bare metal cars. That stuff was not around back in my day !!!
    Back in my day, we worked and saved to finish our cars the best we could or could afford.
    I am working on a Fenderless 33 Chevy Truck and I am trying to use parts that could have been purchased at a Junk Yard prior to 65-67. The only parts that I have scored that are OT is my 72 350 SBC and my Turbo 350 Trans. The truck cab is being extended because I am 6' 6" tall and cripple in my right leg (motorcycle wreck 1972)
    I might not be traditional enough and it sure as hell is not a street rod. I can promise that if I live long enough, this project will have nice paint and a sharp interior.
    Thanks for letting me express myself.............................Jeff
     
  22. Christom
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    While I like the way bare steel can show off killer body work skills it is more of a new-age thing. Probably in an effort to come up with something new. Personally I like paint - especially with a little bit of nice patina - tells a story about the car. But like all things it's all about your car your way - trendy or not.
     

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