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weird question about Model A VIN

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by classic gary, May 14, 2013.

  1. classic gary
    Joined: Sep 24, 2009
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    OK, my 28 sport coupe was a "matching numbers" car, the engine and the frame VINs are the same. The ***le uses the same number, so, all things match.
    I sold the engine to a guy here in Albuquerque, in conversation he said the car the engine is going in has no ***le, he was going to worry about that later.
    The question: should I remove the VIN number from the engine I just sold him?
     
  2. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
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    from California

    it wouldn't hurt. with vin numbers it is first come first served. I sold a guy a California ***le to a Model A roadster, he had a complete original car and could not register it because the vin on the frame was already in use.
     
  3. anyway you can just keep the engine? that would solve any potential problem
     
  4. brett4christ
    Joined: Jul 8, 2007
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    I was lucky enough to locate and purchase the original engine for my 31 Tudor! That's the only reason I bought it....so I had the original engine and the matching numbers.
     
  5. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    Something to consider...it is more likely that the engine was restamped to match the car than that it is actually the car's original engine after 80 years...
    Rebuilt Model A engines routinely had the # milled off the side pad to avoid legal awkwardness.
    Look at the engine number...if the surface on the # pad is MILLED, the number on there is a restamp. In case of trouble you could point that out to the DMV, and suggest they might just want to prosecute... If the surface of the pad where # is stamped is as-cast, same slightly rough surface as the rest of the block, the number is the original and primary number for your car or, very unlikely, a restamp on a block that was sold via Ford parts department and not as a finished product.
     
  6. Oldmanolds
    Joined: Jan 16, 2006
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    Problem solved!
     
  7. 35chevycoupe
    Joined: Dec 26, 2012
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    35chevycoupe
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    from Visalia CA

    So how does it work when you get a ***le for a model a and your using a after market frame and different motor? And don't have the original's. Do you just stamp your numbers? Run it with none? Seems there's lot of cars for sale this way, Or just come with a shell and ***le.
     
  8. 29Coupe
    Joined: Jan 5, 2005
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    My '29 sits on an aftermarket frame with a 348 Chevy engine. However, I also have the original matching frame & 4-banger. I took the numbers off the engine, and made an ID plate, had the numbers engraved on the plate that I riveted to the firewall on my '29. I also had an old pink-slip with those same numbers.

    When I went to AAA to register the car, all they cared about was that the numbers on the car matched the numbers on my paperwork. They could care less where the numbers were actually located on my car. Work out perfect!
     
  9. classic gary
    Joined: Sep 24, 2009
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    Looking at the numbers on the block they look original, have the "stars" on either side of the number, same with the frame, no "milling" marks. Keeping the engine would be good, but I've got no use for it. I'm boxing and x-membering the original frame so I've still got numbers. The car is ***led and plated in my name right now. I just don't want any trouble in the future when/if the new owner of the engine tries to ***le the car using the engine number. He ain't paid the balance of the deal, so this all might be a mute point. Anyway............
     

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