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Introduction Me and my '49 Dodge

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bmw2002e3, May 15, 2013.

  1. bmw2002e3
    Joined: May 14, 2013
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    Hi everyone. Last summer I deviated from the world of vintage BMWs and Mercedes and got my hands on an all original 1949 Canadian model Dodge special deluxe (model d32c). I'm in love. its not nimble, or fast, but its comfortable and has more character than anything. From what I can tell it may not have its original engine, compression and leakdown show this engine is like new, so after replacing the brakes, all rubber lines, some electrical, re-routing the fuel line (vapour lock issues) and just doing general maint work I'm almost ready for summer again.

    Here's a pic. It has a new grille, which hasn't been installed yet.

    I'm in Calgary, but moving to the Stratford area in Ontario in July. Its sweet to be driving a *real* piece of automotive history, I'm digging this flathead, what a cool, agricultural engine. (I only say that because I got tune up parts from my friend's tractor store).

    And it has the 25 inch longer block engine. No idea if its stock Canadian specs or has been bored out. Its painted blue, which I don't think is correct for the engine, and the serial numbers on the engine make no sense.
    On the vin area on the engine are the numbers 24365 on the left part and 3944c or 8944c on the right side. they are in different fonts...

    On the head it says (I'll attach pics) 272, and below that 1327337 (i think)
    Near the front of the head by the timing order it says DPCD in a little logo. Not like your american engines from what i've seen. :)
     

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  2. Dan1950
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    Pretty good looking car; sorry I can’t help with any info, never had a chance to work on that old of a Dodge..
    Are you going to drive her back to Ontario or trailer it?
    I’m in London which is only like 30 miles south of St Marys, damn near neighbors. LOL
    If you’re interested there’s a cruz held every Sunday afternoon at the London Dundas St East Canadian tire store; it starts at 5pm and goes till dark. There’s usually a pretty big turn out and there's everything there from stock oldies to full blown street rods.
    Maybe I’ll see you there; look for the blue 50 Styleline with a Vortec V8.

    Dan.
     
  3. R Pope
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    Original engine would be a 230 cu. in. Check the machined flat on the right front side of the block, just below the head, the cubic inches should be stamped there.
    With any luck it has had a 250 or 265 swapped in. Lots can happen in over half a century.......
     
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  4. Hello and Welcome. Just gotta love those flathead sixes. I've had my '53 Plymouth Suburban since around 1977 and it's still going strong.

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  5. 35desoto
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    On the machined flat area on the block behind the water pump area is a series of letters and numbers stamped/punched - from these numbers we can deduct what the engine is and set you straight on what is in the ol girl. great reliable strong old motors for what they are - good on torque but not great on rev's
     
  6. mashed
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    I hope you were just filling your radiator and got a little sloppy.

    Holy smokes.
     
  7. George
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    Chry,Plym,Dodge, DeSoto CDDP. At least some of the export Dodges got the longer Chr/DeSoto 6, if this is considered an export.
     
  8. 12905
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    If the engine is original, it will have D32Cxxxxxx stamped on the pad at the upper left front of the block. The original engine's bore and stroke are 3.375 x 4.25 for a displacement of (nominally) 230 cu in. Any engine of the same external size can be substituted for the original and the displacement can be raised to 265 cu in plus whatever overbore has ben done. If you are lucky, and have an 'IND' (industrial) block in it it can have sodium cooled exhaust valves as a bonus.
     
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  10. Rusty O'Toole
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    All Canadian made Plymouth Dodge DeSoto and Chrysler six cylinder cars 1938 - 1959 got the same engine, the "long" 25" block used by US DeSoto and Chrysler.

    They juggled the bore X stroke to get suitable engines for Plymouth and Dodge

    Plymouth and Dodge bore = 3 3/8"

    DeSoto and Chrysler bore = 3 7/16"

    Crankshaft stroke could be 4 1/16, 4 1/8. 4 1/4, 4 1/2 or 4 3/4".

    Engine number is stamped on a raised pad at the top edge of the block, on the left side, a few inches from the front of the block. Above the generator and ahead of the oil fill pipe.

    You can also measure the stroke with a wire or screwdriver in the last cylinder. There is a pipe plug in the head, above the #6 piston. Take out the plug to measure the stroke, or to find top dead center for timing the engine.
     
  11. bmw2002e3
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    That was someone else's puddle! haha.
     
  12. bmw2002e3
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    Thanks for the help all. Its not original as the original was seized. It was rebuilt around 1990 and has about 20,000 miles on it.. I hooked up with the original owner recently.
     
  13. bmw2002e3
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    In that arear are the numbers 24365 on the left part and 3944c or 8944c on the right side. they are in different fonts...

    Not original anyway the PO told me:) I managed to find the guy from an old registration left in the car.
     
  14. GassersGarage
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    Welcome to the "Force". Glad to see you left the "Dark Side". Sweet looking Dodge.
     
  15. THRobinson
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    Hey, not far from me! I'm up in Exeter, got a '47 Dodge Sedan.... which someday might actually run :D
     
  16. jazz1
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    Nice car,,did you make it back to St Marys yet or are you enroute? I see quite a few old buggies making their way around the country from my vantage point

    <a href="http://s434.photobucket.com/user/windigo69/media/IMG_1940-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>
     
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  17. COUPES
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    from England

    You don't need to go fast in your new/old car. But you can get some cool hop up parts for Sixes and alot of spares too. Looks like a straight car and cool project. Subscribed bmw.
     

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