I am getting a step closer to my garage paint job which I will be shooting lacquer. I can not bring myself to purchase a $40 kit from harbor freight, yet I can not afford hundreds or more for pro stuff. What do you guys think of this Binks unit? http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=BNK+903348 Seems reasonably priced- but not in the cheap junk category. Correct me if I am wrong. I am also open to suggestions in the $150-$250 price range. Thanks! Jim
I use the HF $39 HVLP gun set. They work great. Key is to keep em clean, like any other gun for sure.
Decent gun, decent price. I'm partial to Devilbiss and Sharpe. A great resource is Len at Autobodystores.com
I love my iwata but I've used the harbor freight gun and it's not terrible just make sure you have a decent air compressor and the gun is clean. Also clean it before you spray your paint because it could have oil or other **** in it.
Hey Jim, What's you game plan for the lacquer job, is this the only paint job you;ll be shotting for some time to come? I would't suggest you spend big bucks unless the colour your shottin is like 1k a gallon, or you'll be painting many jobs in the near future. The Binks don't look bad for the money, but I'd probably look for a smarter deal. Most of the low to medium priced guns are probably being produced in the same factories in China I still shot my lacquer jobs with a Binks #7
Good question pimpin paint- if it don't totally screw it up I hope it wont be my last. I am going to practice on my 68 Camaro bracket car. That only needs to look good from the stands going 130MPH! If that works out ok I will be working on my 57 Chevy which I hope for a decent outcome. So as far as quality goes the $179 Binks is probably coming from the same Chinese plant that the Harbor Freight gun is??? I would buy used but I really don't know what I am looking at. Like everyone, I want the best for cheap!! Thanks for the replies everyone.
While the HF guns aren't in the same league as some of the high dollar ones out there, they really are not all that bad. I have painted a bunch of cars, frames, running gear, engines, etc with them and the nice thing is that if you are too tired to clean it at the end of the night you just toss it out, they are that cheap. We also have a couple of DeVilbiss guns that we use for really nice work, but I have gotten a lot of mileage out of the gravity feed ones from HF. If I were a pro painter I would probably use a better gun, but I am a hobbyist, not a show car builder. Don
Hey Jim, Hunt down some of fellow HAMB member ''overspray'' posts.......... a year or two, well maybe three now, he found some ''el cheapo'' brand of HVLP gun that worked out well for him, and talked them up in his post Cheap spray guns and cheap women have always been nothing but trouble for me...........................
Lacquer shouldn't need that great of a gun. In the very early days of custom painting, they used barn fly sprayers. The beauty came in the rubbing and polishing. blue
Jim I use a binks #7 But the cheaper guns are knock offs like the binks, But when they go bad there are no kits to fix, My binks is 25 years old and still will spray almost any thing, Only put in one or two rebuild kits to the hundreds of paint jobs
i dont know what one your looking at,, at harbor freight but a friend of mine works for a company building and repairing and painting helicopter's in PA.. as a body and paint man..and he has his high dollar gun, and one from harbor freight,, and he would rather use the harbor freight gun..
He's right. You don't need a "Good Gun" to spray your Lacquer because first, you should color sand every other coat, the final coat and then you have to rub it out if you want it to shine. So you can get by real good with a cheapo Harbor Fright (pun intended) gun. I am spraying my truck Lacquer with a 20 dollar gravity feed gun from HF.
The green HF gun was good for top coat but couldn't find repair parts when warn out, the purple one they sell now ****S.....only good for primer (and not thick surfacer primer). I just bought a good gun last year (my first one) and it made a world of difference. http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=DEV+GTI-620G I found mine on sale for about $275 http://www.tooltopia.com/devilbiss-gti-620g.aspx?utm_source=pricegrabber&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=DEVGTI620G&utm_campaign=pricegrabber_r1
I just bought one of the Devilbiss Finnishline FLG4 guns. I like it so far but Ive only used it for primer. All my other guns are Satas. http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/itemgroupdetail2.aspx?websitecategory=FLG4
I've said ths before--I had a gun **** out on me mid paint job and ran to the nearest advance auto and grabbed their house brand off the shelf gun during the flash time. it's the best spraying gun I've ever used and was like $69 at the time.
Most lacquer was sprayed through old Binks or devilbiss syphon fed spray guns...lacquer likes to be rubbed...put it on thick ( multiple coats ) and sand and rub till you lose feeling in your fingers... Devilbiss has the starting line series...ok for the money..also sharpe makes a gun called finex.....same deal..check those out....my other suggestion, make sure you buy THE BEST lacquer thinner you can find. Today's government mandated stuff is pretty weak...good luck...are you sure you really want lacquer ?
http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/tcpgate.aspx I used this set up to paint our 57 buick worked well, As a retired auto body tech of 25 years and my paint guns in tough shape this was a good solution to paint our car and not break the bank. Good Luck!!
I bought a Binks knock-off at a swapmeet some 20+ yrs ago. Br*** seat & uses Binks parts. Musta been before they cheapen'd 'em up.
Ok- that opens up another whole topic- Who makes a good thinner and how do you actually know? As far as wanting lacquer I think it is the best way to go with a garage paint job. Thanks for everyones input! Jim
Hey Jim, I can't tell ya a thing 'bout smog laws in PA. or the "Brown Shirts'' who inforce them, but I'll bet you're gonna have trouble finding ''real'' lacquer thinner You may have to resort to mixing your own with the use of acetone and some xylene or toluene. Both of these last two solvents are much slower drying than acetone , and will act like a retarder to slow the drying, and aid in flow out. If your gonna buy a used gun, if ya can, load some thinner into it, and try to shoot a patern. If that ain't possible, atleast remove the air cap, and inspect the holes in it, and also take a good look at the fluid needle. If the air cap isn't in good shape, or the fluid needle is nicked or badly worn, I'd p*** on that gun. Also chech the trigger for good travel, and any slop, again, if they're is much slop, p*** on it.
HF guns are fine for a first timer. Hell, the cheapest jet we paint with them is 4.5 million. But also remember, it's not the gun that makes the paint job it's the painter.
Cruising eBay yesterday …… lots of quality old Binks and Devillbiss for 10 bucks and up. Like our cars ..... old is better IMHO
Just go with lacquer thinner from wherever you buy (or bought) your paint from. That's your safest bet.
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