I misplaced a ***le to the 63 bird before i had a chance to change it over. it came from california from estate. previous owner dead of course. Is there a way to get a ***le thru florida or somewhere fairly easy. I live in illinois. my dmv is useless.
"sell" it to a friend in a state that is not so twisted. He or she can then "sell" it to you with a ***le from that state or a bill of sale. Your results may vary.
The first step would be hunting for any registration slip that might be in the glove box, registration holder, on the back side of the sun visor or other spot where they might have been put to see if you have the info on the guy who had it registered last. If you had a legit mechanics shop or other business that someone could have left a car at you could file a lien on the car. http://www.v***les.com/library-forms.asp
The executor of the estate can file for a duplicate . However I doubt he will be overjoyed about fixing your screwup for the sake of helping you.
International ***le Service 1-702-456-4027 or Google their website. I have used them for getting ***les for over 30 years,great people to do business with.
If it hasn't been too long ago have the estate get you a duplicate if that cant be done or its beeen a long time just do the Illinois Bonded ***le process.
Be sure to offer to pay him for his time. Will probably be the quickest and cheapest way out of your problem. Charlie Stephens
The only problem with that is, in CA, to get a dupe you have to get a VIN inspection. No car, no dupe
A bonded ***le isn't that big of a deal here in Illinois. Especially since you know the car is clean. you will have to purchase a bond from an insurance company. How much do you think the car is worth?
You should be able to apply for a duplicate ***le yourself, I have done it many times in KY. You may need to provide an affidavit explaining that you have owned the car X number of years, and have simply lost the ***le. Your DMV may not know that it is possible, or may not want to do it. This is from the Illinois DMV website..... " Losing your car ***le can be a pain, but if you live in Illinois it is easily fixable. You can apply for a duplicate ***le online, by phone, by mail or in person at any VSD office. If your ***le is lost or stolen in Illinois, you will need to complete and sign an application for a duplicate ***le. You will be required to pay a $95 duplicate fee and present certain proofs of identification and ownership. For more information regarding your motor vehicle tags and ***les, visit http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/vehicles/***le_and_registration/home.html." Rich
He hasn't switched it over into his name yet, so he won't be able to file for a lost ***le. Bonded is the way to go it sounds like. It's an annoying process here in Texas, which is probably pretty much the same up there.
Here is the info, since its not a specially constructed vehicle a lot of the first part wont apply http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/pdf_publications/vsd842.pdf
That doesn't matter. Like I said, I've done it several times. You provide a notorized affidavit saying that you have owned it X number of years (longer than 7 in KY, that's the number of years that they keep records). They do a VIN search, and it doesn't show that it's stolen, and they issue a new ***le. Rich
That don't fly in Illinois. The best you can do here is a bonded ***le. They will not issue you a duplicate if its never been in your name. They won't issue a new ***le without a previous ***le or transferable registration without it being a bonded ***le period. If he could try to get someone to do that in KY and then transfer that to an Illinois ***le that may work. But depending on the time and costs, it still may be cheaper, faster and easier to just do the bonded ***le here.
Not really correct. Any lost ***le can be replaced simply by showing that your name is on the ***le, no inspection required. If you have lost a ***le and its not in your name and its out of the system, THEN you have to have an inspection. If he gets the executor to order one, no inspection will be required
I bought a 47 Chevy a few years back that had an original ***le and the state wouldnt except it. I got this book of paperwork and instructions for bonding the ***le at our local ***le/license service. It was a long precess that also couldve been expensive. Ive heard several people post it was a pain and several post it was easy, guess it depends on your particular situation. At the time I didnt want to go through all of it so I sold the car. If you have a ***le and license service in your area try them.
Sounds like you guys have got it made after 7 years there, but what do you do in the meantime? I hate seeing people selling cars here in Texas say things like "lost ***le, but you can file for a lost ***le" It's not that easy anywhere anymore. It used to be that you could, but it was back before I was buying cars, so I don't know what the limitation on years was. Seems like your law was written in the same vein as squatter's right's and that as long as you can lay claim to something for a number of years it becomes yours. The bonded ***le set up here in Texas is/was somewhat arcane last time I did it. First you had to go to the regional tax office (not the one in your city) and attempt to register the car so that they would stamp it as denied. Then once you had that you could take it to an insurance agent that actually did bonds for ***les (not a lot do) and purchase a surety bond. You would have to have do***entation proving where you bought the car and from whom, and if the vehicle wasn't ***led in their name either you would have to have the paperwork from the prior owner to whoever you bought from, etc, etc going all the way back to whoever was named on the ***le. The purpose for this was that the bond company would send out letters to all those whom had owned the car notifying them that it was attempting to be registered in a name other than theirs. They have up to 3 years to make a claim, at which point they are reimbursed by the insurance company. The bond amount depends on either the bluebook value of the vehicle or you can have it appraised. Once you have purchased the bond you submit all the stack of paperwork you've ac***ulated to the state and they issue you a bonded ***le. Once you receive the ***le it remains bonded for 3 years. If no one has made an issue in those three years then it switches to a regular ***le. I learned this the first time on a beater Chevette I bought from my sister in law for $250. The ***le process ended up costing just shy of $500 when it was all said and done. Hardly worth it for that little piece of ****, but at least I know how to do it now. Funny thing is that I've lucked out and all my old cars have their ***les, which I keep in a lock box.
Your preaching to the choir. I've done it many times. His problem is, his name isn't on the ***le and neither is the executors. DMV will, probably, still want a VIN check. The greater problem would be the executor. Once the estate is settled and life has returned to normal, I wouldn't run back and forth to the DMV, filling out papers for less than a grand for some guy on the other side of the country. If the car is still in the system in CA, he may be in big trouble. I'm not sure about reciprocity but IL is going to run the VIN. If it shows up as valid in CA, he could be SOL
Shameful to say but that is the abolute easiest way to get it done here, the person who the lien is against does not ever even have to have registered or ***led it here and the state issues a ***le no questions asked.
Holy cow, its not rocket science a Illinois bonded ***le isn't a big deal. You purchase a surety bond not very expensive for 1 1/2 the appraised value of the car fill out some paper work and get a ***le for crying out loud. A bond is required when standard ownership do***ents (i.e., ***igned ***le) cannot be surrendered with an Application for Certificate of ***le (625 ILCS 5/3-109). The Secretary of State may, as a condition of issuing a Certificate of ***le, require the applicant to file a bond in the amount equal to one and one-half times the current wholesale value of the vehicle. The filing of this bond will protect the Secretary of State's office and any prior owner or lienholder as well as any subsequent purchasers, or person acquiring security interest or respective successors, against any expense, loss or damage due to the issuance of a Certificate of ***le. The bond (and the deposit filed with a cash bond) must be returned at the expiration of three (3) calendar years from the date of filing, unless the Secretary of State has been notified pending any action to recover on the bond.Definitions:Cash Bond — A bond executed by the applicant for vehicle ownership and accompanied by the deposit of cash in the form of currency, cashier's check, money order or bank certificate of deposit made payable to State Treasurer. Surety Bond — A bond executed by the applicant for vehicle ownership and a person/firm authorized to conduct a surety business in Illinois, which obligates the guarantor to pay a third party upon default by the applicant in the performance of any duty the applicant owes to any third party. Wholesale Value — The trade-in value of a vehicle or the value of a vehicle sold between licensed dealers and not at retail. Applying for ***le:To obtain a ***le for a vehicle without the proper surrender do***ents, the following items must be submitted to the Secretary of State: 1. Evidence of your right to acquire a ***le, such as a bill of sale, receipt or canceled check. If evidence of your ownership is not available, a notarized statement explaining how you came into possession of the vehicle is required. NOTE: A bond cannot be used to obtain ***les on abandoned vehicles, repossessions, mechanics liens or estates, or to remove a lienholder.2. A written appraisal of the current wholesale value of the vehicle from a licensed new or used vehicle dealer (including motorcycle, mobile home and trailer dealers), a licensed rebuilder (for salvage or junk vehicles only), a licensed real estate agent (for mobile homes only) or an officer of an antique vehicle club or ***ociation (for antique vehicles only). The appraisal also may be obtained from a used vehicle price guide, supported by copies of the front cover and pertinent pages of the guide. NOTE: If you are a licensed Illinois dealer, you cannot perform your own appraisal. Appraisals must come from disinterested, qualified parties.The affirmation of appraisal statement must contain the following: • Description of the vehicle: year, make, model and vehicle identification number. • Current wholesale value. • Statement that the vehicle is intact and that all major component parts are present and in running condition (check box if applicable), or statement that the appraisal applies to a salvage or junk vehicle (check box, if applicable). • Statement that the appraisal value is accurate to the best of the appraiser's knowledge and that the affirmation is made under penalties of perjury. • Signature and printed name of the appraiser. • Firm name, address and dealer license number, or real estate license number, if applicable. • Date of appraisal. (continued on back)Vehicle Services DepartmentFACT SHEET ***les Jesse White Obtained by Bond Secretary of State[FONT=HiraKakuPro-W6-Iden***y-H][FONT=HiraKakuPro-W6-Iden***y-H]♲ [/FONT][/FONT]Printed on recycled paper. Printed by authority of the State of Illinois. August 2010 — 5M — RT OPR 26.16 3. You must choose the type of bond being applied for: A. Surety Bond —A properly completed bond form in the amount of one and one-half (1-1/2) times the appraised value. The required Power of Attorney form must be attached by the issuing insurance company. B. Cash Bond —A properly completed bond form in the amount of one and one-half (1-1/2) times the appraised value, which must be accompanied by payment to the State Treasurer in the amount of the bond. NOTE: There is NO minimum bond amount required. The Secretary of State retains the right to question any appraisal that is not appropriate for the transaction.4. Properly completed application and fee, payable to Secretary of State. 5. Properly completed Motor Vehicle Use Tax Return form and tax payment, if applicable. If the unit is a mobile home, proof of Mobile Home Local Service Tax must be submitted. For questions regarding sales tax, please contact the Illinois Department of Revenue at 217-785-6606. 6. If a lienholder is listed on the previous ***le record, a lien release is required.SECRETARY OF STATE FACILITIES AND REMITTERS CANNOT PROCESS NOR ISSUE PLATES OR TEMPORARY PERMITS ON BONDS UNDER ANY CIR***STANCES. PLATES OR TAGS WILL BE ISSUED AFTER APPRAISAL OF BOND.Upon completion of the required items for bond, please submit all do***ents to: Secretary of State Vehicle ***les Division Attn: Bonded ***les 609 Howlett Building 501 S. Second St. Springfield, IL 62756-7000For questions about obtaining a Certificate of ***le by bond, please call 217-782-9796. NOTE: Any person has a right of action to recover on the bond for any breach of its conditions, but the aggregate liability of thesurety to all persons shall not exceed the amount of the bond.
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