Cookie cutter cars

You will not like my answer to this but if you want to see something different and original just look at the Rat Rod boys. I find it funny to see this kind of discussion when many times if some one does something different they get blasted because it is not traditional. There I said it. Please send all hate mail directly to me. Ha ha


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P*** the Chips Ahoy.
I fell in love with the 55 Chevy as a kid. Always been one of my favorite cars. I changed little things here and there to suit my personal tastes, but the rest GM nailed on the first attempt in my opinion, so why change it just to change it? I wrested with that recently, becoming a little bored with the car. But instead of throwing money and time at something I wasn't sure I'd like in the end, I just left it alone and enjoy it as is. I like the way my car looks. I like driving it, even with it's ho-hum SBC and automatic, and I don't really give a **** who turns their nose up at it, because those aren't they type of people I care to ***ociate with anyway.
I mean what the hell ever happened to just enjoying what you have? If you like something as it is, why change it to be one of the "cool kids"? Some of you guys sound pretty jaded. If you don't like seeing "cookie cutter" car at cruises, don't go. Nobody owes it to you to make sure you're impressed with their efforts.
Isn't that the whole "en***lement" thing we hear so much about these days?

 

350/350 4bl in a 20-40's hot rod? Honestly, I never would have even noticed much beyond that.

 

What's stupid is when someone post NON traditional **** on a TRADITIONAL website. THAT'S why they blasted.

BOOM!

 

I went to cad and coffee in Austin Tx, Sunday. It was a bunch of Civics and Subarus with fart pipes and quick disconnect steering wheels. I was just glad to see a couple of old cars.

 

After talking to allot of people I did find out some more information about what I had been seeing at the shows I was attending. A group of fuys got together and built 7 cars and got all the same parts so they could all collectively work together on each others cars and not have to worry about fabricating new mounts or anything so they could effectively just "m*** produce" the parts needed for each car.

After finding this out it does seem like an ingenious idea but having cars that are more or less identical removes the dare to be different ideas that hot rodding/custom/kustom car culture has been dependent upon. Like someone had posted before about the 90's era smooth hot/street rods all had the same vibe but there were some good ideas but some things were poorly executed.

The reason for my original gripe was just seeing seemingly identical cars with the exception of paint. This perplexed me and did not make any sense because building a car is based upon personal preference so finding several people that want the same identical car is weird to myself. I might like a particular car more than another and I might take the ideas I like from many different sources and combine them into my own vision for my perfect car.

Otherwise you might have a situation like is described here http://jalopnik.com/did-transformers-4-rip-off-this-guys-design-for-the-ne-510655228 also on here http://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...2011-field-journal-thread&p=995889#post995889

 

This is mostly the reason I got into Studebakers.
Specifically the 54 Conestoga (all are 2dr. wagon).

Stude didn't make that many when "new" and there are a LOT less now. Hell, in the SoCal area, the one major, yearly Stude show (normally about 100 cars show up), there is one MAYBE two show up.

For next year's show...I'll figure out how to drive "both" of my 54 Conestogas...! A daily driver and a hot rod. Both different from each other.
Obviously simillar being they started out the same, but suspensions, brakes, rear ends, interiors, gauges are different.
While both are Stude powered (for now), one is a roller cammed, roller rocker, highly ported head, custom intake manifold, custom cam drive, 299. The other is a mostly stock 259, with ported heads and an Offy intake.

Mike

 

.... and I'd wave and permanently smile at you as I went in the other direction in my 32 Roadster that looks like a hundred others we've all seen on the HAMB...

 

So, the 7 pages this thread grew to, is from a misunderstanding about some guys who figured out a way to have fun with old cars. Okay. Got it.

 

I'm going to steal a quote from my buddy Skip:

"Henry Ford made almost 15,000 1932 Ford Roadsters, over 100,000 of them survive today."

Not everybody wants the same thing... Some people do want the same thing... I'm sure Roth thought it would be crazy if everybody wanted what he came up with in his head, but there is more than one "Outlaw" out there... and only one Orbitron... somewhere between the "Orbitron" and a '32 Roadster is where most of us live.

 

Now there's a happy ending.

 

Only a select handful ever truly innovate. But without the m***es who replicate, we would not be able to enjoy this hobby at all today, I'd bet.
The guys who crank out "cookie-cutter" cars are the driving force behind keeping hot-rodding alive. They're the persistence that keep the old cars on the road. They're the guys with the "neat old cars" that the average person sees all the time in their town. They keep this hobby moving. It's the innovators that keep this hobby moving forward (of you can call traditional rodding forward thinking). Can you really call one more important than the other? I'm sure someone will get ****-hurt over this but it's the bazillion 32 Fords and tri-five Chevys that keep hot-rodding alive, not the one-off customs that you see once in a blue moon. Get rid of all the cookie cutters, and you're not going to find yourself with too many allies when your cars get legislated off the road. Like many of our dads told us, "Be grateful for what you have". I'm just happy seeing ANY old car still on the road, being driven, because I know that's one more guy that has our backs. That's one more car saved from the crusher.

 

The one senator that I know of that worked to save old cars and old junkyarsd from being crushed like Manchin did to West Virginia in the 1970's and that was Senator Ben "Nighthorse" Campbell When I lived in Colorado I got the opportunity to meet him when he was riding his Harley. There needs to be more people in office like him.

 

Yep, car shows are fun but you really build'em to drive'em. Driving them is were it is for me.

 

I'm with ya!

 

Theres a simple fix for not liking those cars...mind your own damn business...if youre not paying for it, and they didnt ask your opinion, what makes you think it matters anyway?
Or dont go to shows anymore...stay at home on your computer hanging out on the HAMB, or looking through old issues of magazines and let people do what they want.
But what the hell do I know anyway?

If Hot Rods were more like the Libertarian party: "mind your own business, and leave me alone"

 

Maybe I missed it. where is the shot of your hot rod? I think I know what you are talking about,but if I were to see a non-cookie cutter car,then I could better follow.
Most hot rods are built that way because they are right. they work,they don't have to be changed. If you have a better idea share it with us. maybe you can set a new trend. JMO

 

So now I'm confused??? What exactly is a rat rod??? An unfinished hot rod? I like flat paint, minimal seats, lowered and fat white walls.

 

Going out to the LA Roadster Show this coming weekend with my friend Ray and his absolutely beautiful '32 Hiboy - oh no, there'll be hundreds of them just alike - or not. While he spent the last 3 years building it, decisions like leaving the brand new ZZ430 sitting on the floor and instead putting a blown nailhead in or putting the '34 Pierce -Arrow dash in or hammer forming the one piece radiator shroud out of .090 aluminum or any of thousands of small detail choices are what makes the differences in these "cookie cutter" cars. To build a really outstanding '32 hiboy you have to concentrate on the details, that too often go un-noticed by those who so quickly dismiss the cars as "all the same". If you've got the time at a show, looking a little closer sometimes makes the trip just that much more rewarding.

 

Exactly my point...



I think I need to Close this.

We've got people asking for the definition of Rat Rods, so this Thread can only get worse...