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$400,000 car, wrecked: This is not how you want your afternoon drive to go .....

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jfreakofkorn, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. Steves32
    Joined: Aug 28, 2007
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    from So Cal

    Are you serious?
     
  2. metalshapes
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    The Bugatti cable brakes are a thing of beauty.

    On the one I knew, the rear brakes were bigger than the fronts, because they were designed to run metal to metal.

    This gave a smoother and more predictable action so you could get closer to the threshold of locking up a wheel, without actually locking it up.

    The fronts had friction material so they had more stopping power, but because of the materials available at he time, they were grabby.

    The cables have what is basically a scaled down rear end differential to make sure cable stretch doesn't affect the balance between the drums.

    Bugatti had no reason to go to hydraulic brakes.

    Because his cable system was that refined.


    So I'm kind of doubting that quote was his.

    Somebody that doesn't care about stopping power doesn't pay that much meticulous attention to it.

    It does sound like a well known Enzo Ferrari quote.

    At about the time the Jaguar Le Mans racers were outbraking him with their newly fitted disc brakes.

    Enzo did what he could to get a bit more use out of his drums ( like cutting down the froint fenders on the Testa Rossa to get more cooling airflow over them.

    But he must have known the writing was on the wall.

    In the mean time he just needed a one liner to keep his drivers and the Italian Press happy for another couple of months, until his version was ready...
     
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  3. RADustin
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    I was seriously joking, yes sir. :confused:

    Its not everyday a 1924 Bugatti is posted here. So my first reaction was "what pre war hot rod or post war custom is valued at 400K?"

    Just curious if anyone else had the same reaction. I fully respect the car and completely understand how it is traditional.
     
  4. Brad54
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    never mind
     
  5. Rickybop
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    Don't be too quick to twist a person's meaning. RADustin didn't say that the car isn't Hamb friendly. He only wondered what would be, yet costs $400,000. I'm sure all of us did if we're honest about it. I did. Before I opened the thread, a high end Willys in an ill-fated drag race came to mind.
     
  6. Kevin Lee
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    I had the same initial reaction – and know exactly where you are coming from. That quickly went away when I opened the thread. (same as it did for you I assume)

    My guess is the super excitable guys who had the crazy reaction to your question didn't "get it".

    Man, that guy is lucky.
     
  7. Traditional-yes.......Safe ?.....not so much
     
  8. Cool as hell! I'm happy to see the owner actually ENJOYING the car! Gasp! The horror! So many cars and trucks end up in the hands of collectors, flippers, museums, and other venues where they are never, ever driven. And Joe the Car Enthusiast will never see them behind 12' fences, locked gates, and a dozen Dobermans.

    More power to him! One of my "bucket list" to-do's is to go to the Goodwood event in England. Got to, got to, got to!
     
  9. Kona Cruisers
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    400K+ HAMB FRIENDLY CARs....

    Hirohata merc, Challenger 1, at auction with right people "the Bug"... three at top of my head.
     
  10. Lucky to be alive.
     
  11. Dane
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    Ever seen anyone wreck and not blame it on something other than the driver? [​IMG]
     
  12. fsae0607
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  13. go-twichy
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    youtube, you've done it again! you made us look at something we didn't want to see! good for you. you do a very good job of whatever it is you do now.
     
  14. Goodness gracious old chap, we must get the little blighter back to the shop then.
     

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  15. rld14
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    One thing I've always admired about the European owners of historic racing cars is that they do use them in anger. Meanwhile, in America, cars like this are more apt to be over restored to perfection and covered with diapers.

    Makes sense really, you can't exactly total one of them.
     
  16. flatheadpete
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    It's a race car! Race cars get damaged. What's the big deal? Just glad the driver/owner is ok and plans to do it all over again.
     
  17. Steves32
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    Ok- I see what happened here.

    When I read the title- the 1st thought that crossed my mind was one of the latest GNRS traditional builds that are money's no object w/ every rare part known to man bolted on it was wrecked somewhere.
     
  18. The37Kid
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    I've looked around on web searches for a cut a way of the engine in that Brescia, it really is worth a study. Four Banger, single overhead cam 16 valves with "Banana" cam followers, and a roller bearing crankshaft. Bob
     
  19. Good God man! that is a beautiful sight....
     
  20. TMSTransport
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    Its great to see those cars being used as they were intended, but it also appears that the driver ran out of talent just about the time he really needed it the most....
     
  21. I think he was pretty talented not to completely lose it in the turn! Considering the brakes likely failed, and he survived the crash, I'd say there was talent involved in surviving the accident.
     
  22. metalshapes
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    I don't think so...

    It looks to me like he pitched it sideways to scrub off some speed after the brakes failed.

    That's exactly what I would try.

    I don't think he ran out of talent, he ran out of room.
     
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  23. flatout51
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    No hamb friendly car is worth $400,000..... (cough) McMullen roadster (cough) Calori coupe (cough) :rolleyes: that bugatti is awesome and him driving hard like that to me is exactly what the heart of the hamb is about....

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  24. historynw
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    They were wrecked then and they're wrecked now....

    They were fixed then and they can be fixed now.

    The driver was fortunate, very fortunate.
     
  25. manyolcars
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    Actually the HAMB is about traditional hotrods and customs, not Race Cars
     
  26. mcnally351
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    At least he looked cool doing it. Lol
     
  27. swimeasy
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    I looked real carefully, and I am pretty sure that he was texting!
     
  28. trollst
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    It ain't about the car, its a race car and he's racing it, shit happens, really glad he is still around to fix it and race again. Good on him for doing it.
     
  29. stude_trucks
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    Only problem with that logic is simple reality. A full tune-up on a lot of race cars at that kind of level can be $5-$10-$15K and that doesn't include any repair work. My guess is the damage to that Bugatti will be well beyond $30K, more like way beyond. And simply replacing old original parts with new ones is generally not an option as that would also destroy the value of the car. They will need to fix and restore the old parts as much as they possibly can to maintain as much originality to is as possible.
     

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