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Technical 26 T roadster gow job build

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by T27owner, May 29, 2013.

  1. T27owner
    Joined: Oct 6, 2012
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    while I'm on, got this steering gear in the lot of parts I got. Not Ford any ideas? Has a T wheel brazed on a nut, and small throttle levers.
     

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  2. Kume
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    1926 chevrolet
     
  3. Crazybillybob
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    We kept the same spring arch. but reversed the eyes. give you about a 1" drop. The biggest issue with flatting the T spring is getting the ends to still match up with the rear perches. (we did't have a way to remake the eye with out heat).

    Take a look at Mr. Model T's rear drop shackles, maybe a good way for you to go.

    CBB
     
  4. T27owner
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    Thanks Kume well at least i knew it wasn't ford :rolleyes:

    Thanks CBB , been following your build for awhile. NICE. PM me if need on your sun visor. I have an spare one. I watched my dad re-top his car it was before cameras and JC Whitney was the only antique mail order house. But I'm old:D
     
  5. T27owner
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    well I started playing in the garage with the frame, most of my frame lived on as stationary engines or hay wagons so they were used. T's had thousand of after market gizmos some worked some didn't. Well i found one that did a front spring bracket keeps the spring perch from pivoting. Took a few pics you can see how bent the outside frame is.
     

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  6. T27owner
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    And as usual right when i get on a roll, HAIL warning and HIGH WINDS.(what kinda nut would have 4 cars) So move everything over and pull my car in :mad: Didn't find cracks yet, but did find a couple broke rivets nothing to bad, on fender radiator horns on front. Think they are cold riveted on that bracket fixable non the less
     

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  7. Nice car man..good luck with it
     
  8. Mindover
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    Looking good so far. The body looks pretty solid, I have subscribed not only because it looks like an interesting build but you have some good photos of the body and I am building mine from scratch so all info helpfully. Here is a link to my 26/7 build


    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596032


    David
     
  9. MrModelT
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    if memory serves, those rivets are all hot-riveted, not cold. I hot riveted both of my frame mount brakets for my split wishbones, it was fun to learn the skill of old school hot riveting. We had a team of four: one to heat rivets, one to stick them in the hole, I was on the forming buck and the last one ran the air hammer.

    As a piece of advice, don't weld or box these ol' frames. The T frames are made of Vanadium steel, which is strong, hard and flexible. The frame is actually intended to be part of the suspension system, flexing over bumps and ruts. Boxing, welding brackets or extra cross-members can impeade the frames ability to flex, causing cracks and breakage.

    Just my $.02 :)

    Sent from Mr. ModelT's DROID device using the TJJ mobile app
     
  10. T27owner
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    In honor of my father on Father's Day, he's been gone over 17 years. He is were i got my love of old cars. Here is a pic of him teaching me the ropes over 50 yrs. ago. I still wander around the driveway with the same confused look.:)
     

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  11. T27owner
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    Thanks ya these little frames torque allot. My dad always said " if it don't bend it will probably break" holds true with these. The 2 rivets that are broke are countersunk heads on radiator mount. Should be able to heat em up an set them on an anvil.
     
  12. T27owner
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    Playing around with springs, took one to work we have a arbor press thats as old as the car. Reversed the eyes on front spring pretty easy, backs a different story. Anybody need two half's of a rear spring?
     

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  13. dragsled
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    Hmm ,,you had that same look today when you broke the rear spring:D,,, Tim Jones
     
  14. T27owner
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    Went out on a bicycle ride for a week on the Katy trail in Missouri beautiful trail. Came home looked in my mollases tank pulled out a test piece, this stuff works great. Smells like vomit but you get used to it. Maybe in another week the rest will be out. I left the tip of this out of solution what a differance.:)
     

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  15. kingpins
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    mr model T i didnt know that about the frames. thanks for the info.
     
  16. MrModelT
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    No problem! It surprises me that many people don't know. It really is a unique design and is easy to see and test. I took my T frame and strapped the front cross member to my work bench with a big C-clamp, took hold of the rear cross member and was able to twist the entire frame by hand 2 1/2" to 3" each way.

    On the same hand.....to drill the 10 holes required to rivet the wishbone brackets in place, it took 8 1/2 hours and 4 carbide drill bits for cutting hardened steel. Each bit was dull after every hole. :D

    High quality Ford Vanadium Steel at its best.
     
  17. Bigcheese327
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    I looked for it, but I couldn't find, the famous picture featured in many Model T books of the car on some kind of wavy test road with the front suspension twisted about 45 degrees from the rear. Flexibility was the name of the game for Flivvers!
     
  18. T27owner
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    Well back at it, got a lot of things going on more on that in another post. Got the molasses tank done and going started to pull parts. Man things flash rust fast but they are a 100% farther than they were, steel wool & WD should fix it. Pulled out parts to clean most stuff went back in the cowl needs about 3 or 4 more days. Then put in the second batch. The parts that are out are covered with WD40 bought the family pack at SAMS:D
    I have 2 cowls the one the gas lids on is in the dip now.
     

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  19. dragsled
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    Man Bob that stuff is working Great!!, When I was in today taking a breather from my project, I saw a thread on cleaning parts with molasses you should post some or your pics on it, Tim Jones
     
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  21. T27owner
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    More parts out of the tank, They look so pretty when thy come out :cool:
    Can also see the shotgun patterns and bullet holes better(Must have been a GANGSTER get away car, probably shouldn't have picked a Model T:D). Last night humidity was lower easier to prep.
     

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  22. T27owner
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    The spare tire mount had this home made spare demountable carrier who ever had it when they turned it to a roadster from an rpu wanted it to look good. cut and welder every spoke.
     

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  23. Mindover
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    The body parts came out great. I have to build myself one of those tanks. The panels still need quite a bit of work though. Still you could be having to build a body from scratch like I am for my '27

    David
     
  24. T27owner
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    Thanks mindover , I've been watching your build closely. I was out in my garage tonight cutting a buck out of plywood to see if I could shape the buns. I figure I'm only out my time and some sheet metal, my time is cheap. And if I can't make them I could always buy them, but you got to try:D
     
  25. T27owner
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    Well its September already and my build has been on hold since July. We are selling our home of 26 yrs. and moving to a farm house wit 4.5 acres a barn 3ox60 machine shed and a 4 car garage:) so if you know of anyone in Omaha area looking for a house on the edge of town with 3 1/2 car garage space let me know I'll be happy to help them out. Here are a few pics of the new place.
     

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  26. T27owner
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    having a hard time loading pics here one of new garage
     

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  27. dragsled
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    Place looks really nice Bob, Now get your crap outta my barn ,the possums,skunks and coons says that old iron is cramping there style:D,,, Tim Jones
     
  28. stephane-rod
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  29. lizbeth
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    Bob why don't you post anything, I know you're alive I see and talk to your at work all the time:D BTW I love the Barn and Garage,, Beth
     
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