Anyone able to tell me how to align this thing got it layed out and the negative camber is pretty seriouse? Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Or any kind of advice as far as aligning a king pin front end? Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
That is pretty serious is the A arm stock? I did the same thing using bags with stock front end but nothing near that much camber Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Yea they are stock arms but we had to step them with dropped uprights for the wheels it straightens when lifted but i dont drive higher then a inch or 2 offthe ground usually and noone seems to know how to align these king pin front ends Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Not a single person can p*** a bit of knowledge off to a young gun? Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I'm gonna get this off my chest first, This is a traditional hot rod site. If your first priority is to slam a ride to fit 20 inch rims then figure out how everything works, well thats kinda *** backwards. Kingpin cars align like any other car, by the position of the a-arms. You are not going to be able to get the alignment that you want because you are suppose to somewhat setup your camber when you stepped your a-arms. because your asking Im gonna ***ume you stepped your a-arms and thought about camber after the fact. The camber is set on these cars by a hex nut accentric bolt that goes through the top part of the spindle upright. You are only going to be able to get a couple of degrees by adjusting this bolt. you are either going to have to redo your lower control arms or move your lower control arms inboard. here is the link to the online chevy manuals that will walk you through the alignment process. http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1949_53/index.htm
From what I can see in the picture it looks like you dont have any kind of bracing where you stepped your lower control arm. it simply looks like you raised it up, you need to weld some triangle pieces to better support the area you raised or else that area is gonna break off or crack when you actually drive it.
That is the sacrifice of a modified stock front end. Set it at ride height and align it there. Other wise you have to go to an aftermarket frontend or re-engineer new arms to fit the stock X-member to get all the geometry correct.
Nevee asked for any opinions on the old ride just asked how to align it and yes we had no clue it was gonna camber when we bagged it since its clearly my first time using one of these air springy bag thingys and yes we are leaving the stepped arms tacked together with no bracing as well since i dont value my own life and my familys. So now that the sarcasms out of the way i guess we may just have to make some new upper arms... Just hope i can find enough jb weld at the store to put them together since i ran out of stainless steel welding rods Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
it is what it is, sometimes the truth hurts, like I said this is a traditional hot rod site, the number of people on this site with rides that neither conform or match the year criteria is out of control. you asked for help you got the correct answer, you dont like it oh well. your problem happened from what you did to your lower control arm. changing your upper arm will not solve your problem only push the top of your pimp my ride rims out to the point that it scrubs your finder, then youll be asking how you can roll out your front finders to fit your wheels.
Haha the pimp my ride rims lol u traditional everyones car looks the same guys are cute. Actually thats not at all what the upper arm would do unless u just pushed it out straight. U old guys are all miserable on here. Then again if i came home everyday to the fat saggy old lady id be upset to... U guys need to get the old **** wet so u guys can take life a bit easier ill pay for the first round of ******s... Its time for my ban Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Easy come, easy go. You knew the rules here. Had you but a stock wheel and tire on that thing and posted it that way, I'm sure the feed back would have been differant . But really, the pic you posted say's it all. Your engineering is wrong because you do not understand suspension geometry or geometry in general. Bye Bye
I hope you get banned, you've had multiple threads locked because of your pushy ways, you will not be missed.
You asked a simple question, you received a correct answer from hobbyjp. Even a link with good info. If that pisses you off, so be it. Not every hack has the smarts to build a safe, useable ride.
You gotta get some thicker skin man. to your question, the eccentric bolt in the upper will be your adjustment but before you try and do it you should get the body back on because you are going to have to get the bags and cups in first and as someone who has done one of these frames I can tell you the front will not go that low to ground. The body will hit first, get all that made and the body on and you will see. Your negative camber wont be as bad as you think. Because you stepped your lowers along with the dropped uprights you may need to make some pretty tall cups to keep it from damaging the body or build some stops into suspension.
Oh the skins plenty thick lol right now the body mounts are exactly where they need to be for the rocker to lay on the ground. The dropped uprights and the stepping of the lowers didnt get it far enough to lay on the 22 so we had to z the frame a hair. the lower arms lay before anything , since wont fly for this hack lol we are redoing the cross members so it sits a half inch lower then the lower arms. We got the camber straightened a bit and are now ready to re gusset and getting everything welded back together. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
On any bagged car truck or what not no matter the tire size you have to pick a set ride height and align the front end at that ride height and that is where you do the majority of your driving. Up or down from that spot will be out of line. You might be a hell of a lot happier over at a forum like Hotrodders.com where they condone big ugly wheels with rubber band tires and laying the frame on the ground so the car looks like it got caught on the tracks and broke the suspension is all the vogue. Look at any vehicle with bags that is sitting laid out in any collection of photos from any show in the world and they all camber in when the vehicle is laid out all the way. That is part and parcel to doing that. Possibly with a full custom front end with the geometry designed to keep the tires closer to straight up and down through the full swing you could get away from it.
Are you sure the spindles are not installed upside down to the dropped upright? I've seen this before and after flipping the spindle in it's correct position, problem was solved.
Ive had a ton of bagged cars and and trucks and they do all get negative camber wen laid out but this is the worst of it yet. We will be setting it correctly to the ride height when we get a but closer i just asked because it seems none of the shops around here seem to have any clue how to align it once set at ride height. Yes the dropped up rights are in correctly Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
rember those old alignment men tied the crossmember ends down to the rack and jacked the crosmember up in the middle that should help the alignment , they bowed just from use back then, seen it before
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