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Can-do. I will be working on my '60 sedan tomorrow, mid-day.

 

Damn Speedfische, that Falcon is stunning, but I don't know if I am more impressed with the car or the model of it!







-GP

 

Thanks Gimpy , I'll check back for them .

Speedfishe , your car is Beautiful !





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Damn Speedfische your car is beautiful, love the colour as well.

4T6ford, I may be able to help you with your missing filler piece, Problem is im in Oz for 3 more weeks if you can hold off till then. Jason..

 

Jason , I just sent you a PM asking about some other parts ! Hey if you don't mind giving me a yell when you're back in NZ that'd be great!
Rod .

 

nice build...

 

Thanks so much for the kind words, everyone - and for checking out the 1:25th model, too. I have almost half the amount of time invested in the little one as it took me to build the big one - LOL!

 

You are correct. There is an outside piece that sandwiches the filler neck to the body. The gas cap locks onto this.



Also, if you don't already have it, you'll need the rubber hose segment and clamps that connect the filler tube to the tank. My aftermarket tank had the fill spout facing the opposite way as the factory tank, so I just rotated the filler around to meet it and mounted it there.



I hope this helps.

 

Damn, beaten to it. I just got in the door with my pictures. Yes, the lock ring for the cap is a separate piece.

 

Tell ya what though, I'm not sure how your are fixed for fueling station nozzles there down under, but I would highly recommend setting it up as an EXTERNALLY VENTED, internal fill right down on the neck in the tank. Late model filler nozzles have a bad habit of moving such a high volume of fuel that filling can get really tricky with these things. It's about 50/50 what hits the tank and what hits the ground.

 

Yeah, as soon as I am employed again, a Cobra-style, or Jag filler cap is going on my fender, by the back window, with a new, custom tank. I can't fill in California at more than 40%, without putting it on the ground. I buy gas $20 at-a-time, so I don't get shived for taking too much time at the pump.

 

No doubt guys - I always have to fill very slowly and then sort of predict how much it is going to hold so I can stop short. Even being very careful, it has run out on me before.

 

16x7 205/50/16 tires

 

I'm actually glad to hear you guys talking about troubles with filling your gas tanks! Crap! I've only had it on the road a couple weeks and I'm already frustrated with trying to get it in the tank, and not on the ground! I've been dreaming up some sort of adapter I could build to stuff into the filler neck, and then pump gas into it. Or possibly use an old gas cap to make something that would fit the filler and seal so I could hang the nozzle and let it fill!
Guys at the local gas station are planning on getting the spill kit out as soon as they see me coming!

 

I have a Mustang tank in my '61 with a short section of filler neck and a screw cap from Tanks, Inc. No more overflow, but a lot of "You got a fuel cell in that thing?"

 

The cut-off filler neck would be a great place for a battery shutoff.


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nuts4fords and speedfische, NICE builds! Love that green color too. wow!

 

Speedfische, I have a similar setup (5.0 EFI) in my '65 wagon. (recognizing tanks are a little different). Describe your fuel delivery setup please. I have a similar setup and noticed a fuel delivery issue as if it's starving a bit. My pump is low and it's the EFI pump from Jegs.
Have you had that issue?

Looks like the R&C Motorsports MII conversion?

 

Dude, I just go real slow when I fill my '63 up.

If anybody bitches about how long I'm taking, I just tell'em @ $4.13 a gallon for 93 octane, I can loaf at the pump for as long as I need to....

 

Hi j.r. Nice - I have never had a starving issue with my fuel delivery. As you can see in the rear underside photo, my pump is mounted just in front of the sending unit at the same level. The pump is an MSD 43 gph unit. I run a stock-style filter, a stock non-adjustable regulator and factory fuel rails at the motor. I have 24 lb/hr injectors. All fuel lines are 5/16" tubing (supply and return).

What is the rate of your pump? How much is the motor modified? What size fuel lines?

Also, yes that is the R&C Motorsports Mustang II set-up. I also used their coilover rear kit.

 

Looks great! I have their MII. I like it other than a squeak in one of the bushings. Handles great.

I think the pump I have is a Holley. It's about 45 psi. and mounted just past the rear frame kickup. So it's about 12" from the pickup/sender. Hi flow fuel filter. Tank is like new and re-sealed. 6 a/n lines front to real and return. Aeromotive adjustable pressure reg. Runs good pressure until tank gets below about 3/8. Engine is basically a stock 5.0 H.O. and running 19 lb injectors.

I'd like to go with a custom tank and in-tank pump. Sounds like mine whines when it gets hot. Just wondered how yours was doing 'cause EFI is not the norm here. Thanks for the reply!

 

That's exactly what I did with my Futura about twenty years ago.

 

Yours sounds like it should be good to go - if the pump is old-ish maybe it is wearing a bit. Other than that the only difference I see is the distance from the sender. 12" doesn't seem excessive to me, but some say that with an external in-line pump, the closer to the tank, the better. These pumps would much rather push the fuel than pull it. Gravity feed into the pump is ideal, but can't always be obtained when using the factory sender. There may be some element of gravity feed there until your fuel drops to a certain level.

 

You are right, that Falcon is incredible and the scale model of it is just plain unbelievable, accurate down to the quad mufflers, fuel system, Mustang II front suspension, and EFI motor!! wow!! Top notch work, Speedfische!!!!

 

I've tried slow, and it definitely helps stop the leakage, but it's a pain. With today's pumps I have to hold it tight against the filler neck, and going slow is not just time consuming, it's hard to hold the nozzle firmly for a long time. I end up getting $40-$50 on a fill and holding the nozzle firmly in one position that long isn't fun.
I've been thinking about taking a spare gas cap and dissecting it so I could make a filler that screwed on like a gas cap, and had the seal; then turned upward, so I could put the nozzle in and fill. Then remove it afterwards and put the gas cap on.
Just not sure if I could get a good enough seal once it's in place, so it wont leak also while filling.

 

1961 Done, right

 

Thanks Andrew!

 

What color paint?



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Not sure if this question was meant for me or Leon, but if it was for me: I had the paint shop scan a clean portion of the color that was on the car when I bought it. It had been painted this color many, many years ago and was sort of rough, but I liked the color so much I wanted to redo it in that shade. That being said, I don't know where this color originated from, but if you're interested, I can get you the mix number off of the can when I get home.

 

Mint Green was a factory color in '61.