Has anyone ever used on of these and if so how is it working out for you I have one I'm going to try to use on my Falcon http://Www.autoworksparts.com/Dual_Brake_Master_Cylinder.htm
Doesn't look like anybody has used one well by the end of next week I will let you know how She works
Dual (separate) master cylinders are mainly intended for racing. The extra cost and complexity has no advantage over a simple dual master with an adjustable prop valve (disc/drum or disc/disc) for the street. Two masters will normally require more pedal effort than one single, although using the very small 3/4" - 7/8" Autoworks bores will yield low efforts, but at the expense of longer pedal travel, and possible fluid displacement problems, depending on brake caliper/wheel cylinder sizes. The other question is why Autoworks states the need for a residual only to the front discs? Disc brakes with firewall-mounted masters should not need or use any residuals. I would seriously rethink the purchase of the Autoworks setup for street use, IMO.
Absolutely no advantage for street use. Made for racing. In fact the better ones for racing have a cable that allows the driver to fine tune the brake bias while driving as track conditions change.
"Disc brakes with firewall-mounted masters should not need or use any residuals." Another blanket statement that people toss about....One good example of when a disc brake, firewall mounted application needs a RPV is when the master cylinder sits below, or even close to, the level of the calipers. That's what Wilwood says anyway.
Look my Son bought this for my car and not me I'm trying not to hurt His feelings but having never even seen one I was just wondering how they worked.If I find its unsafe for the street then His feeling will just have to take it.Thanks for the input I guess the best way is when She comes off the lift just drive it and see
If it were my boy it would get a duel chamber cyl and the parts he purchased would hang on the wall as a reminder,like the wall of shame!
Your right but I can't tell him the shame part but what I can do is tell him I found out it was just for racing and hang it on the wall if it don't work for me.I will give it a try next week with him in the car and go from there Thanks
That's a lot of money when a little work could install any $100 - $150 MC out there. But paying double for a "bolt on" is OK I guess if that's what you want. The thing is if you're paying extra because you don't trust your brake knowledge I would stop now and pay some one to do it right. Even a bolt on is going to need an adjustable push rod and the knowledge of how to adjust it. You must know how to adjust the balance bar or the car will be dangerous in panic stops and on wet pavement. Same for brake lines. They will have to be fabricated from scratch to fit the MC layout.
I know it don't mean much but ASE in brakes just never seen one of these before and like I said I didn't buy it my Son did.This is what the web site said This unit does not require the use of a proportioning valve. Brake bias is adjusted with Master Cylinder balance bar. Increased pedal feel with less effort (The general consensus of the CNC cylinders is that the pedal effort would be generally less than manual brakes but require a little more effort than power brakes) Eliminates the need for power brakes. A separate Master Cylinder for front and rear. CNC Dual Master Cylinder is Available for Drum or Disc. Cylinder size 3/4" for disc brakes Cylinder size 7/8" for drum brakes (Example your car has disc on the front and drum on the rear, you would need a 3/4" cylinder for front, and 7/8" for rear.) You will need a Residual Valve for front only cylinder connected to disc brakes. $29.95 each. (4 wheel disc brakes needs 1 residual valves front only)
Blanket statement tossed about? The application the Autoworld setup is intended for are '63-'74 Ford/Merc cars, and none have the firewall masters anywhere close to the calipers or wheel cylinders. All US production firewall mounted masters are well above any brake cylinders that I know of or have seen, and know of no residuals ever being used with any modern US production disc brakes. ('50s Chrysler and Kinmont are exceptions) If you know of one, please correct me. It would require an extremely low profile car to have the firewall mounted master at or below the calipers/wheel cylinders.
nice of your son to get you a nice gift for your ride. hope you'll post some pics with that installed to go along with the review
You have it so try it out , if it does not work well change it. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
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