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warning, glass bowl sediment bowl filter gaskets

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tb33anda3rd, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. tb33anda3rd
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    a customer had me change out his sediment bowl on his model A for a new vintique one. he also had me replace the screen with a "paper" type filter inside the bowl. the new filter came with a black gasket that felt sturdy enough when i installed it. i did a tune up, carb adjust and solved a brake issue. i took it for a test ride everything was fine. customer came to pick up the car, liked the way it was running and left with the car. a few minutes later i get a call, broke down, he thinks he ran out of fuel. so i jump in my service truck and head down to get him. after some diagnosing i find the tank has plenty of fuel but it is not getting past the sediment bowl. when i took off the gl*** bowl the rubber gasket was swollen to the point it had closed off the slot from the tank. fortunately, i had a cork one on the truck and got him on his way.
    i took the old gasket and was able to easily pull it apart but after it dried out it felt just like it did when i put it in. the picture shows two pieces of the same size when dry. the piece on the right is after soaking in fuel for an hour.
     

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  2. woodypecker
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    Thanks for information. I ***ume the filter is the one that has the little holes all aroung the outside.
     
  3. tb33anda3rd
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    yes, and i had even reamed them open a little when i installed it.
     
  4. RMR&C
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    from NW Montana

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I have made new gaskets from sheet "cork" gasket material only to find it contains rubber and breaks down in contact with corn gas. Only 100% cork will work.
     
  5. jkeesey
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    They have had this problem for a few years. I am a dealer in Model A parts and after I found this last year I called and complained to Snyders. They sent me a stack of the cork ones for free and said to throw the "Neoprene" ones away. I've never had one stop fuel flow but they look pretty silly when they are in the shape of a cone inside the sediment bowl.

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  6. tb33anda3rd
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    why would they keep selling them? it is a fire hazard.
    this one stopped fuel, i think because of the paper filter and outer lip forced it straight in.
     
  7. jkeesey
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    Beats me. I've never seen a paper screen before let alone used one so I've got no input on that.

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  8. out plowing
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    I know in the antique ag world they have mesh screens but we still use cork bowl gaskets. They screen only keeps out the large particulate.

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  9. jkeesey
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    The Model A comes with a fine br*** mesh screen from the factory and they still make them today. Just pull it out and clean it and its good to go. There's also a filter inside the tank and one at the fuel inlet of the carb so your going to catch damn near everything.

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  10. tb33anda3rd
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    this was the first time i used the paper filter, i don't think it is a bad idea....the gaskets just ****.
     
  11. Bobert
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    Timely post. I have a repop from Eklers that has the same problem with the "neoprene" gasket at the top. I thought I had too much gas at first. It wouldn't let any gas into the bowl unless I loosened it. Now to find or make a cork gasket. **** gas and repop materials that aren't correct.:(
     
  12. tb33anda3rd
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    i don't blame the gas. tractor supply has cork gasket and screen.
     
  13. d2_willys
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    Same **** that my New Yorker does. Swells up from that garbage they call gas! Drain all the gas out of the tank and run straight gas without the booze. Unless someone comes up with a new gasket that is impervious to the booze, the same thing will continue to happen.
     
  14. junkyardjeff
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    I had one of those old gl*** bowl filters on my 37 Chevy p/u that I just installed a wix filter and gasket,it ran out of gas in the garage so I used the gas from my boat to get me to the station and did not make it as the gasket swelled up and made it **** air. I am glad I had the filter before the pump as it might have caught fire if it was mounted at the carb.
     
  15. tb33anda3rd
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    this is the problem with the model A, if it had leaked it is right over the exhaust
     
  16. jkeesey
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    By the way, hang onto the "neoprene" gasket. They work nicely for the radiator cap.

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  17. tb33anda3rd
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    in the future i will use it for that. too late for this one.:D
     
  18. jkeesey
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    Just sit it on the bench and it will go right back to normal form once it dries, doesn't help if you get mad and destroy it though.

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  19. frost.jerry
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    This same thing happened to me two years ago.

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