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Discussion in 'HA/GR' started by laxhotrods, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. laxhotrods
    Joined: Oct 15, 2012
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    hi guys I am about to start a ha/ga build in the next few weeks. I have a slant six and will be running a 3 or 4 speed (have both) A model front axel and thinking about a dana 35 from a jeep do you guys thing the dana will hold up ok? any info and help will be great thank all
     
  2. mudflap261
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    dana will be just fine here in Tulsa we have been running ,dana 8 AND 9 INCH FORDs some of the cars have over 500 hundred runs on them L J
     
  3. ThingyM
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    The Dana should be fine, Just make sure it is in good condition. Weighs less and uses less HP to use than the big Ford units.. I use an S10 rearend... BTW.. Use the 3 speed. 4 sp. is not needed...
     
  4. laxhotrods
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    thanks guys I have a few ford 9" and 8 3/4 mopar but they just seem to heavy and to much intertia to make them move
     
  5. laxhotrods
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    what gear are some you guys running? I will run on 1/8 mile tracks mostly
     
  6. Old28
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    Mopar 8 3/4" is a real good setup, weight is less than a 9" and about the same as an 8" Ford. Ran an 8 3/4" in our 1200 HP blowen dragster for years without a problem. They are old school and have been around drag racing for years.
     
  7. Old6rodder
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    I'm running my slant with an 8" ford. It's 35lbs heavier, but I couldn't get better than 4.10's for my previous 7 1/4" Chrysler. With the Ford's 4.62's pulling 29" hides I'm hitting about 4800 at 102 in the 1/4 mile traps. Typically shift around 5500.

    Haven't looked at the tach at the 1/8th, but am roughly 1/4 of the way through third by then.
     
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  8. laxhotrods
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    old6 are you running a 3 or 4 speed?
     
  9. Old6rodder
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    Three, I shift slow enough as it is. :D

    See the Flyin' Brick II link in my sig, pictures in this link.
     
  10. laxhotrods
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    great I think I will use the 3 speed then hell it would never get into 4th on a 1/8 mile track
     
  11. RoadRunner5
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    Welcome laxhotrods, I also run a slant 6, If you do any improvements to that motor, you first need to increase the oil pan size. I run a Dana 30 rear end w/posi, 410 gears on coker tires. When I was running a 4 speed my best 1/4 mile time was 12.25. with 355 gears. When I changed to 410 gears, it was not any faster. Now running a 904, with 410 gears, best 1/8 mile of 7.21 @ 94 MPH. 1/4 mile best is 11.53 @ 114 MPH. my car is a little heavy at 1540 lbs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtr8O4tV1Qw this run was a 11.63.
     
  12. laxhotrods
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    that thing is awesome! what size converter are you running? I would think it would take around a 9" to get any stall out of it being the slant does not make a lot of torque
     
  13. RoadRunner5
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    Hi Laxhotrods, that convertor is a TCI 4500 stall, I don't remember the size. On the dyno, 4800 RPM is is 305 torque. That's 14 to 1 compression.
     
  14. RoadRunner5
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    On my convertor, I thought that the box that it came in had a cutout for the size, but I was wrong. the only cutout was a small round hole for the snout. Sorry, I checked it today. Joe
     
  15. laxhotrods
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    what steering box are some of you guys using? I have a ross box in my other car should I look for one of those
     
  16. mudflap261
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    corvair vw mustang spe use what is available and cheap . will it be easy to mount their is no set box the idea behind these cars is so a guy working a 40 week can race.
     
  17. laxhotrods
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    that's it I have a few corvair boxes and a vw one I want this to be a low buck build also. I have had high dollar race cars like miller 4-link dragsters when I started out I was in a old 169" FED with a mutt small block and had the most fun. I want to get back to that with a open trailer small tool box and go racing
     
  18. Old6rodder
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    Yep, and us technically "retired" types too. :cool:
     
  19. mudflap261
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    Big 10/04 retired ,lets here it for open trailers and small tool boxs
     
  20. laxhotrods
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    could any of you guys running a vw box post some pics of how you mounted it?
     
  21. Old28
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    Pictures of mine:)
     

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  23. laxhotrods
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    Old28 thank you that seems easy is your cage built out of 1 5/8"?
     
  24. Old28
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    Laxhotrods -- VW Steering turned out fine and I am happy with it.

    Yes the cage is Mild Steel 1 5/8" - .118

    Some night when you have a few hours go through my build and "bobw" build thread. Lots & Lots of pictures that may be of help. "bobw" is a true builder with tons of talent, I am just a "Racer" trying to build a hot rod.:D

    PM any time if you want more information or pictures.;):rolleyes:
     
  25. OBFB HA/GR
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    I run a Suzuki Jimny box. Sometimes called a Sierra. I made an extension out to the side with a support bearing. Sorry no pic's, long lost in computor crashes and things.
    The Suzuki box is small and light with only 3 1/2 turn lock to lock, nice big meaty mounting bolt holes too. I think somewhere in these posts is a picture I sent.Nigel.
     
  26. laxhotrods
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    thanks for all the help guys I know I am being a pain but I really do appreciate it

    could I get any of you to post some pics of your cage with out the body it would help thank again guys
     
  27. bobw
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    Here's a shot with the cage almost done. Don't listen to old28. He is a very good builder and I am just an old hack. I borrowed a good bender and that was important.

    You are not a pain with your questions. We're pleased to see another car under construction.
     
  28. laxhotrods
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    Nice car Bob. Do you remember how much tubing it took by any chance? I plan on ordering next week

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