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1960 olds missing intake parts!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dyna88Kid, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. Dyna88Kid
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    I'm only 17, and I just started getting into the mechanic/reso-mod thing, so give me a break if I say something stupid.

    Anyways, my olds is missing some part and I don't know what it even is. I can't find any pictures of 60 olds engines that aren't a) too blurry b) incomplete engine or c) have giant air cleaner on so there's nothing to see but filter.

    This part sits on top of the manifold forward of the carb and behind the thermostat housing. There are two ports that water circulates through when the engine turns, and two very thin bolt holes that sit further back. Something has to go there, but I can't imagine what. Pictures available if needed.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. Dyna88Kid
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    Those pictures I mentioned:
     

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  3. Dyna88Kid
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    Well... That didn't work well. That's not my engine, one like it.

    Mine is here:
     

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  4. 2racer
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  5. Dyna88Kid
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    I actually am on that site, however the admin is never on and he's been doing maintenance on it for like a year. Nobody ever replies when I post there.


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  6. GOATROPER02
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    Those are just intake bolt holes.....put 3/8 -16 thread bolts with sealer on them.....all early Olds intake bolt holes are drilled into water and will leak if not sealed......same with the bottom row of ex bolts


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  7. Deuces
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    Looks like your also missing the fuel line that goes from the fuel pump to the front of the carburator...;)
     
  8. 2racer
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    these might help
    394-2.jpg

    394-3.jpg

    394.jpg

    looks like power steering bracket
     
  9. chopolds
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    Not power steering...this is a 61 intake, that has PS, doesn't have the bungs like on yours. I don't have them on my 55, either. Might be from a truck or similar? Maybe for a governor mount?
     

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  10. Paul
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    not a stupid question at all, smart in fact.

    if you are talking about the two holes on the number 3 intake runner in the picture of your engine those are for the dashpot, it keeps the throttle from returning too fast when you let off suddenly.
    here's a picture of an intake I pulled from a '60 394 a while back
    hard to see in this picture but the inboard hold down bolt is hollow for the vacuum line connection.

    it is not totally necessary to have one, but this shows you what to look for if you choose to.

    even if you don't use one you do need to run a couple bolts in the holes with sealer to avoid vacuum leakage.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Dyna88Kid
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    Ok! So there's a dashpot, but what device is supposed to go into the water holes? Are they really just for useless bolts? Maybe I'm not understanding...





    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  12. Dyna88Kid
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    Not quite, I have it but I've not installed it because I have to splice two together. The one that is on my fuel pump is too small to thread into the carb and the one on the carb is too large to thread into the pump. That part should be easy, but, as I don't know much about engines in general, the rest of the connections will be confusing for me.


    I think I need a book...


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  13. Paul
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    I should have spoken more clearly :)
    I was referring only to the two smaller holes because Tony, GOATROPER02, answered about the two larger holes.

    they take intake manifold bolts,
    like the rest of the manifold bolts they attach the manifold to the head.
    and they do need sealer on the threads
     
  14. Dyna88Kid
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    More pictures of the holes I'm really wondering about ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1376231517.270048.jpg

    Just behind the temperature sensor


    And:
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1376231563.578701.jpg

    If everyone agrees nothing goes in here but bolts and sealant, that's what I'll get. I want my car on the ROAD!



    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  15. Paul
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    this is not a topic that requires democratic resolution.
    it's science.
    and what Tony says is fact.
     
  16. Dyna88Kid
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    Ok! That makes sense now. Should push "refresh" more often.

    Now all I have to do is:

    Get a fuel filter,
    Replace the fuel arm ***embly that goes inside the tank (and get a gasket for it)
    Put the tank on
    Connect the carb
    Seal some bolts.

    I'll see about getting a dashpot, but I think I may have to go without. Can I just get bolts and sealant from, say, true value, and close everything up, or will I have to find some special bolt on ebay and pay way too much for it?


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  17. Paul
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    dashpot holes can take any bolt of the correct size,
    I use American made quality grade 8 bolts for intake

    a shop manual would be a wise investment
     
  18. Dyna88Kid
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    I hope I didn't make anyone mad...


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  19. Paul
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    hahaha

    not even close

    good luck and welcome all Rocketeers young and old
     
  20. Deuces
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    It takes allot to make this ^^^^ guy's blood to boil...:D:eek::D
     
  21. d2_willys
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    Good choice for an engine, 371 golden rocket! Suppose to be gold in color, looks like someone painted the valve covers with light blue. Now all you have to do is get rid of that slushbox Jetaway and get a real transmission, dual range hydro my boy!
     
  22. Dyna88Kid
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    Actually, I'm told the 371 was removed and the larger 394 was put in thanks to the second owner :/

    Anywho, thanks to you guys I'm much closer to getting her running... Now all I have to do is hook up the carb correctly o_O

    Let's see how this goes...


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  23. Dyna88Kid
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    Jumping my ****ped battery now! I've got to turn her over a bit before connecting everything to dump the **** fuel out of the lines. Once I've done that, it's just two small connections and we're good to go!


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  24. Bobert
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    Get all the old gas you can out of the system including carburetor. My Olds was started twice on old gas and the third time bent a half dozen push rods because the old gas had varnished the valves immobile in the guides.
     
  25. Dyna88Kid
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    I've rebuilt the carb, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm going tomorrow to borrow a compressor so I can blow the entire system out.


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     
  26. Dyna88Kid
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    Anybody have some pics of similar two barrels with the fuel lines?

    I'm still a bit confused about where a couple connections go.


    GO OLDS '60!!!

    the most comfortable ride you ever tried!
     

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