I bought a falcon wagon a few weeks ago for $2500. The car is from cali and is mostly all original. Car came with window sticker, every reciept since new and even the factory bumper jack and horn. Missing no chrome nothing at ALL. Falcon had a 4v 302 with 50k on it with a tremec 5 speed and a mustang 2 front end. 5 lug conversion and disc brakes in front with a custom drive shaft and a shortened ford 9" rear end. I wanna buy some headers for that set up but I'm unsure on the clearence wirh the tranny and steering knuckle. I just don't wanna GUESS what will fit This is the car
Contact HotRodDon Here on the H.A.M.B. He is one of the top guys at patriot headers and helped out another of our members over on the "Doing Falcons right" thread just a couple of weeks ago with the same combination. I am the worst to caution you on this, but back up a minute, and take a few minutes to do an intro at the top of the main page. It'll keep the grumps off your back...
I had headers on my 64 and I had to cut a notch in my shock tower. Then I took a 3 inch pipe and welded in the notch. It looked cool but it was in 1987, I did own a camera back then.
Cool wagon. I have wrestled with different headers with bad results. I had some early mustang long tubes fit with a little massaging but did not fit right. The patriot short headers do not bolt right in, they also so rub the pass side tower. The towers really screw you. I've heard good things about the pricey tri y headers. Mac auto parts and Dearborn classics should have them. I ended up cutting my towers for room. Where in mass are you from? Didn't see that on cl
I'm assuming his shock towers are gone if the car now has a MII front end. Should be tons of room, just gotta stay off the steering, which is what he was asking. Fox mustang shorties would have a good chance at working. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
On my 60 Wagon which has the least amount of room and with the towers removed I am running Doughs Headers DOU-D66OYS TRI.I was told by the person who made them for Doughs that a new Header is out D66OYS If your rack has a long pinion like 5 1/2" then the first set I told you about won't fit but the other one will.I would look at both and go from there.You can look at my pics to see how they fit. Awesome Wagon and good luck with your build if I can be of help Please let me know. I got my headers from Summit a lot cheaper than Dearborn and the same one
Without shock towers you should be able to fit anything in there. I would caution against long tubes though, because they will rob your ground clearance even if your car isn't lowered. And forget about lowering it.
Are you using a fox body mustang cable assembly for the clutch? If so http://www.fordpowertrain.com/FPAindex/FPA%20index1.htm has a set of headers designed to work in that application. With the MII suspension you should have a lot of room. I have that in a '65 Mustang and it really opened up the engine bay.
With that MII front end, does the car also have a conversion to a steering rack with u-joints, or does it still have the factory gearbox/shaft? I used Fox Mustang shorty headers, but I have the steering conversion (came with my MII kit) - not sure if they would work with the factory box/shaft assembly.
I built the Doug's D661Y long tube Tri Y specifically for Falcons with Mustang II front ends. They should clear the Tremec just fine as they clear T-5's and the Big Case AOD. The only issue MIGHT be what you are using for clutch actuation. Mine has a Modern Driveline cable set up. I have also had a customer use them with a hydraulic clutch set up. Let me know if I can help
No you didn't need louvers I have been using Patriot headers for years and they are Great headers I was just giving Him a few to look at so He could choose from thats all
I am not sure for what will exactly fit the application you have But I tried to put Mustang headers in my Factory original V8 Ranchero and that really did not work. I ended up using Hooker competition plus headers and they were a drop in.
I ended up getting 5.0 factory shorty headers. Gunna run a x pipe qnd still trying to figure out a perfect muffler that's super deep but not wicked loud. Super 44s sound great but are pretty loud. Engine bays all shaved up minus my battery mount for the rear that I'm building. Soo battery sits there for now
Wow nice score for only $2500.Looks like all the hard work has been done.She should run really well with that 5 speed.
I also used an x-pipe with my 5.0 shorty headers. It fit really nice. I have a couple of Thrush mufflers just behind the x-pipe and then just before the rear bumper I have two mufflers taken off of a 2005 Mustang GT. The stainless tips on those mufflers stick out from under the bumper. The thing is really quiet, yet has a loping idle to it because of the E303 cam. It confuses a lot of people. Haha.
Its lopey right now with the crap setup it has now. Its some knock off flowmaster that's a single exit. God knows why they went from duals to a single but what ever. The second you give it gas its super quiet. Not gunna cut it lol. Glad to know the factory shorties and a pre assembled x pipe will work thanks!
This guy knows why! That was an exhaust style that Flowmaster was pushing fairly hard in the nineties to help promote low end torque, and it works, BIG TIME! I have my avatar Plymouth set up that way, and even with a substantial cam on board, it's quiet and builds a wall of beautiful torque the second the clutch is dropped. Plus, even with an aluminum headed 360 on board pumping out about 430 horses, lots of folks see the single sewer pipe exhaust tip and assume it's still a six!
Interesting is that duals to a single exit muffler or a y pipe after the headers to a single in/out muffler? That's what's on it now
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