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installed in Chevy engine block 235 1962, help.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rustem, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. Rustem
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    Hi friends, again the question. I have 54 Chevy sedan, Chevy engine was installed 235 engine block 1962. Engine installs not I. People before I took the engine mount 1954 and redesigned to 1962. Looks very bad. The most important thing is broken alignment of motor relative to the frame. As it should be I don't know. I have not seen it. Somebody knows, where you can buy the kit for the suspension of the motor 235 1962 to the frame 1954? Maybe someone can make this item? Thank you.
     

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    foto block
     

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  3. 2racer
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    Late Sixes for '52-54 Chevys

    To install a late 235-261 in a '52-54 Chevrolet p***enger car, there are two methods to consider. The first is to locate the holes for the late front motor mount in the IFS crossmember (still called knee action by Chevrolet until 1954 ). The holes have to be drilled in the correct places. On the 1952 models, there are flat stops in the right place, but on the 53-54 models there are no indications of where they should be, so you will have to get the measurements from a æ49-51 and copy them. Then install a 37-51 p***enger car front plate on the late 235-261 engine.

    The second way to accomplish this swap is to buy custom mounts from Stovebolt Engine Company The kits come with frame and engine mounts and are a bolt on. The stock '52-54 motor mount towers are riveted to the frame and have to be cut off, as they will obstruct our frame brackets. Once engine mounts are attached lower engine into position, bolt down the transmission rear mount. Then locate the frame brackets. Drill frame holes at this time and bolt in place. The Stovebolt Engine Company motor mount kit is also of value when installing a Stovebolt automatic transmission adapter behind a 235-261 because it shortens the spread to the tail shaft of the transmission.

    from this page
    http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/engine_swap_216.htm


    http://stoveboltengineco.com/
     
  4. Rustem
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    Thank you very much! I'm not very well know English, but I will try to understand.. )) Thank you
     
  5. Rustem
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    I could not find the installation kit on the website. :(
     
  6. blyndgesser
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    That website is very poorly designed. I couldn't find it either.
     
  7. Rustem
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    What to do? Can anyone nbud do it? Maybe someone has the blueprints?
     
  8. treb11
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    I looked through the Stovebolt Engineering company website andthe only place mounts are mentioned, it says "contact Ch*** Engineering" I looked on that webste too and there is no mention of mounts in the 49-54 p***enger car category. If I were you, I would e-mail both companys directly and ask if they have kits on hand. good luck
     
  9. Snarl
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    take a piece of 1/4" steel plate.
    drill 3 holes in it to match bolt pattern on engine block.
    attach plates to engine.
    install engine into proper position.
    weld the original engine bracket to the 1/4" plate that you made.
     
  10. 2racer
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  11. re49
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    I just put a '58 235 in a '53 210. I used Langdon's motor mounts and they worked perfectly. They are modified '52/'53 mounts that look stock when installed. You don't have to do anything with the stock frame-mount towers, it's an easy bolt on job.
    I talked to Langdon's by phone. You won't find the mounts on their website.
     
  12. 2racer
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    they don't sell these any more, web site refers you to ch***is engineering, from catalog, items we don't sell any more...
     
  13. Rustem
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    Yes it is very bad! I will try to make myself. It is difficult to align the engine, I do not know the angle and distances, it clearly does not fit now. Thank you friends!
     
  14. re49
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    They sold them to me approx. 2 weeks ago.
     
  15. shifflett
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    Why not just drill and tap the three holes that are under the first freeze plug in the second picture by the motor mounts since thats how they mounted them in 53-54 should be the same one the p***enger side
     
  16. BabbitBeater
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    Rustem, did you get it to work? I installed a 261 in my 53. I called Mr. Langdon at the above mentioned website, then I sent him my motor mounts. His son modified them to fit. After that, everything bolted in fine.
     
  17. Mr48chev
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    Guys it's been a while he posted any progress but remember that Rustem is in Petersberg Russia and would have more than a little bit of trouble ordering parts and pieces from the states.

    The three mount holes on the side of the block should have already been drilled and the simple solution would be to fabricate a bracket to bolt to those that came up an over the side mounts and used a biscuit style mounting pad.
     
  18. HEATHEN
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    Thirty years ago, I put a '58 235 in a '53 210. It was just a matter of measuring the difference in distances between the stock mounting holes and the '58 mounting holes and fabricating a bracket from 1/4 inch steel to weld to the original bracket.
     
  19. CayoRV
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    Contact Patrick's in AZ. www.patricksantiquecars.com
    He can help you with anything related to the old stovebolt 6's as well as performance goodies and dress up stuff. They are good to deal with and very knowledgable.
     
  20. 54fierro
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    from san diego

    Hi Rustem,
    I have the same situation as you. 54 car and 59 engine. The holes are cast different on those 2 engines.

    At first i had a plate(poorly done) like somebody mentioned above, then i modified the stock bracket to reach the back cast hole in the block. If you have access to a welder it should be no problem making something.

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    after, hammered down the side and redrilled a new hole(you may have to weld since somebody already cut your mount)
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    ddriver side only required welding a hole closed and drilling a new hole
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  21. tkmark
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    RE49, just wanted to check with you on the "Langdon/Ch***is Eng" mount set-up. Did you use these mounts and not the front mounts as on the 216's? Thanks, Mark

    http://www.ch***isengineeringinc.com/engine-mounts-235-straight-6/
     
  22. Doni
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    Hey there! Just wanted to clarify the motor mount deal. To put a '58-62 235 engine into a '53-'54 Chevy, Stovebolt offers an engine mount conversion. This is not a Stovebolt item off the site, however is available. Call Tom for details (586-739-9601) or email info@langdonsstovebolt.com

    There are other mounts that Stovebolt no longer offers :D
     

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