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vintage remote oil filters anyone use em?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ottos, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. ottos
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    anyone using these filters on there 50-60s v8 engines? I would think it would need bigger fittings for flow. Anyone use em please comment id like to run this on my Y block on my A project
     

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  2. saltflats
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    What did your Y block come with for an oil filter?
     
  3. I have one for my 57 235. There is a line from the lower left to the upper middle right side of the engine. I'm still trying to figure it out, so I'll stay tuned
     
  4. ottos
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    Has canister on side of block.. I can convert it to screw-on then use adapter to runs hoses to remote oil canister.
     
  5. saltflats
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    An adapter to an adapter sounds like a oil leak to me but if the hoses from the adapter to the filter are larger than the fittings in the filter then I would look for a different filter that fits the hoses.
     
  6. racer32
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    I'm pretty sure the old aftermarket filters aren't designed for full flow.
     
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  8. Hnstray
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    With rare exception, this is true. These are called "partial flow" or "by-p*** filters". Oil is fed from an oil gallery port to the filter housing and then the return line sends the oil back to the sump.

    Eventually, the theory goes, all the oil gets filtered. In my opinion, they are barely better than no filter at all. They were an "accessory" item, and a source of revenue for replacement filters and they did that far more efficiently than they filtered the oil. Frequent oil changes were a better bet.

    The one exception that I can think of is that some late '50s and early '60s Chevrolet trucks were set up with FULL FLOW remote oil filters. They had metal lines about 3/4" in diameter, IIRC, and they performed a worthwhile service.
     
  9. Kustomism
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1378897672.271092.jpg
    Got one on my V8 but change oil regularly to be safe.
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    Or this type of canister on my other car
    has a standard late model filter inside,
    is a copy of old hildebrandt canister


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  10. racer32
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    Someone put a Frantz filter on my truck a long time ago. One of these days I'm going to pull the leaky ******* off. Already would have but the feed line comes off the front of the cam oil gallery, and it's hard to get to. I think it causes the oil pressure to be lower than it should be...either that, or my old 283's pump is getting tired.
     
  11. I thought you meant remote oil filter like in my new hot rod engine has a clearance problem and I am useing a remote filter to over come the problem.

    If I was running an engine that came with an oil filter and didn't need to move it for clearance sake I would use what it came with.
     
  12. Why not use 'em both? and call it an oil cooler.
     
  13. Bruce Lancaster
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    As noted, the great majority of remote filters from back then are not full flow. Not only are the apertures too small, they are usually equipped with finer filters that remove smaller crud but can't p*** enough oil for FF use.
    Remote filters WERE commonly sold and used in the golden age of engine swapping, really the entire 1950's. Many common swaps, and pretty much all hemi swaps, put the OEM filters right into something structural, so the same places that sold the adapters and mounts sold the cures: If you were out of money after buying a late-model engine at the junkyard, you made do with a simple plate that routed the filter exit right back into the engine and ran unfiltered. If better off you got the version with two 3/8 pipe holes and ran a remote filter. There were very few options on that because just about everything OEM had either a remote byp*** filter, not usable for this, or a full flow filter that went right onto the block. Normal and slightly pricey cure was a Hildebrant cast aluminum filter canister that accepted some period OEM element. Very nice piece, listed in nearly every hotrod catalog, but pricey.
     
  14. RichFox
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    Perhaps you could weld on larger fittings?
     
  15. ottos
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    I can weld larger fittings on canister but I would have to figure out the filter problem for faster flow back to engine.
     
  16. JohnEvans
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    Racer32 :Yes if that POS Franz does not have a restrictor fitting it the circut you ARE loosing OP.

    Rich Fox: Yes but all the filters that fit that can are too restrictive for full flow.

    ottos: You are correct about the filter issue ,overall a bad idea best to forget it.
     
  17. ottos
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    So my engine is a 54 mercury 256 y block... That is full flow I presume?
     

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