•••consider this your warning shot•••

I see no answers here.

Ryan has a sticky with images of what is considered a traditional hot rod and said that what would qualify would be built in the vain of those rides.

So if a guy builds a traditional ride but with more modern components for better performance do they get booted or not?

When you guys "draw the line" some common sense needs to be used. Too elitist with what qualifies will turn users away. Too broad of a definition will flood the forum with ****.

I don't see a problem with a car that's built with modern components that looks like an old traditional ride (as Ryan said). Get to elitist with what tires/trans/engine can be used in a car and still go in here and that's just too far, I think.

It's kind of like this - do you want to see current pics of pinup girls from the 50's or do you want to see the newer models that look like the girls from the 50's?

Me? I'll take the newer, updated, better-performing model that still has the look I like

 

After reading this thread I have no idea how you moderators do it, or even why you want to do it. I do appreciate it though, that's why Ive been an alliance member since the beginning.

 

I can't believe some folks still don't get it.

 

No way I would go back to the older version. It pissed me off when "experts" bashed people (on a f'ng traditional board), about being a fool for using "welded steering arms, single master brakes, lacquer primers/paints". etc. Those guys should have been tossed, but now there is a place for them too. But if they have "their place", there needs to be this new hard lined section for cars they way they were.

"Almost" only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades...not "almost traditional"

 

I don't understand it.

A forum that's purpose is to discuss traditional hot rods has a sub-forum for traditional hot rods.

It sounds like something out of the Department of Redundancy Dept.

The H.A.M.B. is a forum for discussion of traditional rods. A sub-forum for traditional rods is created, Ryan posts pictures of what a traditional rod is. By Ryan's post a vehicle that looks like those pictures is a traditional rod and fitting for this forum.

Now there's discussion about what tires, radiators, and transmissions are allowed to be on cars in this sub-forum

I think the simple thing to say is that this sub-forum is for period correct builds.

If that's what this sub-forum is about, rename it to Period Correct Traditional Hot Rods.

*EDIT*

Ryan has actually said that this is what this sub-forum is about:

But he did so in the main forum: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=831257

I think to make things easier for everyone, put the appropriate forum descriptions under the heading of each forum instead of "spreading the gospel of *forum name*" That way users will know by the forum description if it fits or not. The forum vets will know, but the new guy will want to put his "traditional" ride in here because it fits his description, but not the forum description.

1. Traditional Hot Rods - The Traditional Hot Rod forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to period correct hot rods only. Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, historical threads, and feature threads only.

2. Traditional Customs - The Traditional Custom forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to period correct customs only. Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, historical threads, and feature threads only.

3. Traditionally "Styled" Hot Rods, Customs, & Production Vehicles - The Traditionally "Styled" Forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to cars that might not be "period perfect," but are traditionally styled. This is not a forum for modern street rods, rat rods, or anything else... Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, and feature threads only.


So the proper descriptions are out there, just not where they need to be.

 

Yeah, maybe I should have phrased that differently. We wouldn't be "spreading the gospel" if we pushed them to move on. I was more or less just referring to those folks that don't, and won't EVER "get" this place and are just never happy with this forum... That gets old and I'm glad that stuff will be sifted out.

Also... So when do we get to see an update on YOUR COUPE, Kevin!!!??

 

Well if YOU get it so well, YOU want to explain it?
I kinda get the feeling it's like ****, we know it when we see it, but it's kinda hard to explain..........

 

So much debate about a grey line. Who cares? Worst case your car falls under another heading in HambSpace. Besides, if you've been here longer than a week, you know that radial tires and an ipod player will land you elsewhere.

I like the new format, less need to wade through threads to get to the good stuff.
bias-ply and radio delete all day long.

 

So Fred, you have no questions at all? You're absolutely confident about what's what? Sounds like it. Ok...good for you. Then if you're so ahead of the curve, how 'bout enlightening us by answering the questions and being helpful instead of just ridiculing others like you've been lately.

 

This explains it. These descriptions need to be under the heading of each sub-forum instead of "spreading the gospel of *"


1. Traditional Hot Rods - The Traditional Hot Rod forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to period correct hot rods only. Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, historical threads, and feature threads only.

2. Traditional Customs - The Traditional Custom forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to period correct customs only. Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, historical threads, and feature threads only.

3. Traditionally "Styled" Hot Rods, Customs, & Production Vehicles - The Traditionally "Styled" Forum is reserved for threads and posts pertaining to cars that might not be "period perfect," but are traditionally styled. This is not a forum for modern street rods, rat rods, or anything else... Please use this forum for technical threads, build threads, and feature threads only.

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=828037&page=2

Quote Ryan:
"Yes, we are looking for period correct cars.

That said, there are cars that aren't necessarily period perfect that I do think belong here. How about an example? A perfectly chopped and hardtopped '40 Merc with a 700R4. Obviously, we aren't looking for 700R4 threads, but so long as the thread stays pointed at the traditional aspects it's all good.

There will be many threads that blur the line I'm sure... I mean, there are now... And really, we've been letting all of those blurred line threads stay. Now, we are going to be looking at them and making judgements. Some folks won't like those judgements.

I plan to get yelled at quite a bit. Part of the job I guess. But tomorrow, the sun will rise and then the sun will set. I don't wanna get much more complicated than that."

This pretty much summed it up for me, his site, his perogative....

 

Yeah that's a confusing one isn't it. It's a 65, the list of parts clearly has non tradional stuff listed. It's been up since the new forum came on line. But when you look at it it's a pretty cool car. But I think most of us would have to agree its "Traditionally Styled". I have been wondering about my build. I have 3 parts that aren't "from back in the day", a Uniball that connects my 40 rear radius rods, a torque rod and a 32 style aluminum radiator. The rest is all pre 1960.Those 3 things are enough to put me in the "Tradionally Styled" category the same as steering dampers, disc brakes, radials, all thing I can't stand to see myself. To believe otherwise would make me a hypocrite.

Do some of us feel like this was our place to be accepted and now we might not be? Maybe. Will it drive some of us to be even more **** about what we are building because of that? Probably, and thats not a bad thingFrankly, I think I'm going to quit worrying about it. The more I think about it, it seems kind of silly. Because next year, when I drive my AV8 pickup down to Perrysburg when the Rollin Bones come through, Thunderbirdesq will still walk up with an outstretched hand and a familiar "hey brother" like he always does. That same kind of thing will happen at countless places, with many other people I've met over the years. I think that's what's really important.

 

I'm not gonna lie, The new hamb is still a little confusing but I'm starting to understand it.


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LMFAO.......wow

 

Seems to me but I may be off some, but cars like the T-5 in the 34 go in traditional as long as the T-5 is not being showcased or discussed.If the T-5 part is being discussed (such as problems fitting or building) it goes in traditional styled.

If it shows too many non-trad items,(radials,aluminum rad,edlebrock carb,ETC)....things that can be seen, it goes in trad styled.

 

I think some peoples concerns, as mine when I first read this, are a bit over elevated since they are reading this post from the main page and not realizing it originated in the Traditional Hot Rods section. No, I don't think a TH350 or an alternator will get you banned and the sky is not falling. Keep on truckin', all is fine.

 

What's the other forum called damnit been workinh on my car for the ROG I haven't seen this thread till now ..I hope my 29 couoster don't get flagged for the modern motor and trans .it will be replaced very shortly with the flathead motor I have ...

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Got it on the T-5. Traditionally "Styled' section.

I guess I answered my own question about a thread with pics and video of a ride in a hot rod. I again read the guidlines for the Traditional Styled Hot Rods and Customs section and the Traditional Discussion and Happenings section. Sounds like it goes in Traditional Discussion and Happenings.

 

Straight from the bosses mouth. A T-5 isn't period perfect (or damn close). How is this difficult?

 

We need to police ourselves. If something on your car makes you question which forum you should be in....then it needs to go in "Traditionally styled". When was your (fill in the blank) built? T5, 350, 700R....come on....we know it's post '65, there's no gray area. "Traditionally styled" is already the largest forum here and will continue to grow. I think if everyone who's trying to be the "Traditional" forum was ABSOLUTELY TRUTHFUL about their parts, 2/3's (if not more) of them would be in "Traditionally styled". That's where I'm gonna be and I'll be proud to be there. I'll look like I'm straight out of the early 60's, but with a SBC350 and TH350. Just be happy everyone's got a place on the HAMB. BE ABSOLUTELY HONEST (no gray area) about your parts, police yourself, and find YOUR forum.

 

Sorry Kevin. Please don't be bummed. I don't take it as personal...just wanted to get it clear in my mind. I think I'm clear now. Thanks.

 

I have a question, and at this point I'm not sure where to ask it, but it may fit into this thread....so....
Since the forum ***led "The Hokey *** Message Board" is now a digest, of sorts, of the new forum list, can a new thread be started on the digest board, or should new threads only be started on the other boards?

I noticed a "start new thread" link on "The Hokey *** Message Board", and was thinking new threads should probably be started elsewhere, and this board only used to reply to existing threads?

 

Growing Pains.........................OUCH!

 

You did say that you'll give infractions for cars. Maybe you meant just for blatant stuff.

 

? for the Mods....
Refering to this;

"Note: This forum is actually the old "General Discussion" forum from the H.A.M.B. before we split into multiple focused forums. Over time, we will be moving many of the old threads from this forum into the appropriate forum listed above, however, this will take some time and frankly, I don't ever expect to get them all moved."

Is there a way for an OP to change their thread to the appropriate place? Maybe we can save you guys some work....

 

I am absolutely enthusiastic about these changes. It's been a long time coming but definitely a welcome change in my book. It's a shame I won't have Internet at my new house until Monday..

Many, many kudos to you and all the other moderators.


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