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Art & Inspiration 1932 ford. need help for modeling

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  1. speltospel
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    Hello everyone. My name is Vladimir I of the city of St. Petersburg.
    I'm 26 years old. I'm 3d artist.

    Now I started to do a project on modeling of 1932 ford hot rod hiboy.
    I have difficulty in finding dimensions and drawings. In my city there is no one hotrod. all I know about them, found only on the Internet. I was inspired by these machines, and fell in love with them.
    I want to ask here for help from the present owners of 1932 model for sizing of part dimensions and body. if possible.

    I want to make this project very accurately. due to lack of information, I have difficulty to make it perfectly accurate.

    I've managed to make some parts of the suspension and frame. but I'm afraid to take a body. 'cause I have no drawings.

    that's what I am today.
     

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  3. speltospel
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    my final mission is roadster model like this. in cl***ic look.

    Now I'd like to check the dimensions of all the details. Also check the size of the radiator grille shell. I also need the dimensions of the body. I'd like to find a person here who has such a roadster. and who agreed to help me.
     

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  4. rockfish
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    Unfortunately my '32 has a fibergl*** body or I'd be willing to help. Good luck with your project.
     
  5. paul55
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    contact Brookville Roadsters, I'm sure they would help you along. They make the new steel reproduction bodies.
     
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    Your efforts are looking great so far. Good luck with the project.
     
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    thanks you fellas

    Bruce Lancaster
    i send PM to Deucedaddy don. thanks

    paul55
    i try, but no sure. seems to me they do not have to have time. they are too busy working.

    rockfish
    thank you for suggestion
    how accurate the fibergl*** body?
    for example for start. you can specify these dimensions?
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    2.
    3...

    ps: If you have tape measure in millimeters would be wonderful
     

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  9. 50shoe
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    divide inches by 25.4 = mm.

    I guess I'll be the guy to ask: is this a personal project? of are you looking at producing these things? Brookville has put a tremendous amount of money and effort into their bodies, so don't expect them to give out info to just anyone. I'm sure someone is working on knock offs...

    if its a personal, one off project you've come to the right place for help.

    best of luck
     
  10. In Sweden (not to far from St.Peterburg) you can find Reprosteel, they make steel 32 Roadster bodies.
    Maybe they can help you.

    Good luck, Hennie
     
  11. speltospel
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    50shoe
    yes this is my personal project, for soul.
    my commercial works in another industry. if you interesting http://vladimirpospelov.ru/

    dutch deuce
    it's too far away)
     
  12. speltospel
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    also i made ​​a model of the wheels. here's how it looks in a simple render. all what complite now.

    Now I need to finish the front suspension. and drum brakes. I have also been hammered difficulties with the size of the hub.
     

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  13. Bruce Lancaster
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    Find some very good mechanical drawings of many parts thus:
    Go to Google advanced patents
    set ***ignee to Ford Motor
    set years covered to 1930--1936 (many patents were filed very late)
    You'll find some on grill shell, a complete ch***is drawing, stuff that was produced and stuff that was experimental...
    A post listing many: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286271
     
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    Bruce Lancaster
    great thanks
    goodle patent is very good
     
  15. Bruce Lancaster
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    Just be careful in what you used...many Ford patents were illustrated with early versions of parts not exactly like what went on production cars. There is also purely experimental stuff...if you look, you will see that Ford more or less invented the VW and the Tatra in the thirties!
     
  16. speltospel
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    I'll be back. :)
    I will show progress little by little.
     

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    How is the caster set up on the front suspension of the 32 body?
    in all the photos of the frame, I see that there is a crossmember and springs rest against it, and it is at right angles to the ground.

    if you take into account that the front of the car drops and the back is higher, then the caster generally becomes negative, but in theory the axle should be littered back, but I don’t see adjustments in order to turn the axle along with the springs. how is it done in reality? or owners of 32 hot rods drive with zero caster?
     
  18. Happydaze
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    In stock form the caster is allowed for in the castings fitted to the ends of the wishbone. There is no adjustment other than by shimming the ball mount.

    I'm not sure if the front crossmember is level or not in stock form, as you suggest. If it were there would be a bind in the spring. When modifying, the crossmember is usually set at the required caster with the frame also set at the desired rake.

    Chris
     
  19. speltospel
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    update some parts
     

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  20. Beanscoot
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    Wow, that must be a tremendous amount of work.
     
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  21. speltospel
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    completely handmade.
    in fact, each detail is carried out according to the principle from simple to complex. everything starts from the primitive and goes to the finished model.
    the matter is complicated by the fact that all the details have to be done from a photo of their Internet. not having the original car for dimensions.

    here's roughly how it goes.
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  22. Beanscoot
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    Some of the parts will have known dimensions, like the brake drum inside diameter, and thread sizes on the tie rod ends. So you can extrapolate some of the other dimensions from those.
    Being in Europe you will probably want to convert our proper English measurements into that funny French system you use over there.
     

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