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Slightly O/T - Restoration of an old gas station

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Harrison, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. Harrison
    Joined: Jan 25, 2002
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    Harrison
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    Anyone know anything about the preservation of historical landmarks? There is an old gas station here that was built in 1930. It looks like an airplane. It was obviously built by some hillbillys looking to get the attention of p***ing motorists.

    There is a group here in town that has rented it for a few years in hopes of being able to save it. They were just able to buy it recently and plan to restore it. I want to help somehow. For a car guy who loves history, it's just too cool to not be a part of.

    Anyway, has anyone been a part of anything like this? The group working on it has probably thought of most everything but I'd like to be able to offer something more than a strong back. Perhaps a cruise to raise $$? I've never run one myself though...

    Anyway, I thought some of you might find this interesting:

    www.powellairplane.org

    JH
     
  2. williebill
    Joined: Mar 1, 2004
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    [That place is cool as hell,been driving past it all my life....Been afraid for years that it would get torn down,with all the new building going on near there...Lots of the history of Clinton Highway has disappeared in just the last few years...Still a few seedy old spots left,but not many.Glad the old girl is gonna make it.Riding by there is the 60s with my dad,and the first time I saw it as a kid,made a helluva impression on me.Guess I thought it was real when I was little..Do you know if that old stone round station building is still on Hwy. 70 ?
     
  3. Petejoe
    Joined: Nov 27, 2002
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    from Zoar, Ohio

    It varies from state to state but in most states funds and cheaper tax rates are available to anyone, not just groups who are renovating a historic landmark.
    One of the hitches here in Ohio is.. There has to be a business in it.
    Of co**** I'm sure there are other freebee funds available through other sources. Thats all the info i have on this subject. I had just attnded a meeting by the Ohio Histocial society on this subject last week. Check your states info.
     
  4. Harrison
    Joined: Jan 25, 2002
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    Harrison
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    The old man I got a lot of my RPU parts from lives on Hwy 70. Are you talking about the little round building, built from river stones, that was in front of a school? Kinda sitting in a "Y" in the road? If so, it is gone. I noticed it was torn down about a year ago. I didn't know it was a service station once. Sad.

    I never knew any history on it.

    JH
     
  5. praisethelowered
    Joined: Aug 14, 2003
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    I have done a lot of this in LA

    1st step is to apply to get the building listed with the State Secretary of Interior as a "Historic Landmark". Just because you think it is one doesn't mean it is.

    If it is recognized and listed then certain protections (and burdens) are placed on the building with regard to future en***lements. This means that if someone tries to take out a demo permit to tear it down it will be denied. It also means that restoration work will have to meet certain standards set forth by the Sec. of Int. office. This is generally a good thing but requires special knowledge.

    As you can imagine. . . . some people's idea of restoration is to replce everything with plastic facimile's of the original material. . . the Sec. of Int. standards keep someone from doing the equivalent of throwing away an original 32 ford and putting a boyd car that is painted the same color in it's place and calling it a restoration.

    If you think of it the way we do cars you'll be pretty much on track. . . the goal is to save original material wherever possible . . . not just replace old parts with new. It is more expensive . . . but anything less isn't really restoration.
     
  6. Dan
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    may be some issues with underground storage tanks as well??
     
  7. Harrison
    Joined: Jan 25, 2002
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    It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and the tanks have been removed.

    JH
     
  8. ratster
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    ratster
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    I had seen on the news it will be saved.
     
  9. jalopy43
    Joined: Jan 12, 2002
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    Are we talking about hwy70 in TN? Could be a good meeting place for a 'rumble':D I hope they restore it. Cool Sparky
     
  10. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
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    according to the site, the people who are tryin to save it now own the place, so they have the "possession is 9/10th's" thing in their side... i do agree, places like this need to be preserved, even the ones that aren't car related... however seeing as how its a gas station even if it wasn't as cool as it is, makes it 100% on topic here on the board if you ask me :cool:

    its odd, and its been noted before but, rodders/custom folks tend to have a p***ion for history regardless of the context of the history. be it cars and car related, to war, to medieval times... we have a taste for the stories and relics of things that came before... :cool:

    VERY cool post :D


    ***Edit***

    they DO need to find a faster server tho... takes forever to load, altho there are prolly 2000 HAMBers tryin to access the thing now :eek::D
     
  11. marauder651
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    from Tucson AZ

    If I'm ever cruisin thru Tennessee I hope that I can visit. COOL!
     
  12. Bigcheese327
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    I'm not real experienced with this yet, but I know a little, as I'm planning to make historic preservation a career (yeah, that's why I work in a hotel and have no money for cars). The most powerful protection you can get is in fact a local historic designation. Federal is the weakest, state is middle ground, but local laws (especially historic districts) provide the most protection. Do a bit of research to determine whether your local laws will protect a building desginated historic (at the local level, like I said, anything else is virtually meaningless) and then get it so designated.

    Good luck, and keep us up to date.
     
  13. williebill
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    Yeah,that's it...Real close to the road,but with a cover..Stopped and just sat there once a few years ago...Building looked solid,too..Guess somebody in West Knoxville probably bought it to build their 3rd fireplace out of the rock...Damn shame,not like there's any reason it couldn't stand where it was,and be restored..
     
  14. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    They flew this one home from a s**** yard!

    http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imp.gif?event=noiframe&client=ca-pub-6018480646656106&dt=1130448211160&lmt=1085441194&format=728x90_as&output=html&channel=3605209230&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.warbirdregistry.org%2Fb17registry%2Fb17-4485790.html&color_bg=99CCFF&color_text=000000&color_link=0000FF&color_url=3333FF&color_border=0000FF&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fhl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF-8%26q%3DLacey%2BLady%26spell%3D1&u_h=600&u_w=800&u_ah=572&u_aw=800&u_cd=24&u_tz=-240&u_his=4&u_java=true

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    [size=+4]Flying Fortress/44-85790[/size]
    [​IMG]
    Serial #: 44-85790
    Construction #:
    8699 (-VE)
    Civil Registration:
    None
    Model: B-17G
    Name: Lacey Lady
    Status: Restoration
    Last info: 2002
    [​IMG] History:
    Art Lacey, Portland, OR, Mar. 5, 1947-1995
    - Last Flight from Altus AFB, OK, Mar. 8-10, 1947
    - Displayed at Lacey's Bomber gas station, Milwaukie, OR, Mar. 1947-1990.
    - Displayed at Lacey's Bomber Restaurant, Milwaukie, OR, 1990-1995.
    - Displayed on pylons as 485790/Lacey Lady, 1947-1995.
    - Upper turret donated to CAF's Sentimental Journey
    The Bomber Foundation, Milwaukie, OR, 1995-2002.
    - Static restoration on site.
    - Forward fuselage removed and under restoration, Aurora, OR, 1996-2000.
    [​IMG] [size=-1][size=-1]Source(s):[/size][/size] [size=-2]
    Chapman, John & Goodall, Geoff, Edited by Paul Coggan - Warbirds Directory,Warbirds Worldwide Ltd., Mansfield, England, 1989.
    Goodall, Geoff - Warbirds Directory-4th Edition, 2003.
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  15. Man, that breaks my heart :( I stopped at that place a few times over the years--a real interesting station. I can only imagine the effort that went into laying all those creek rocks. Thank goodness I took pics. There was a Tokheim 36 or 36B standing under the edge of the canopy :)
    All these years and I've never seen the airplane station on Clinton Hwy......maybe someday :rolleyes:

    For you guys that have more than a p***ing interest in gas staions and all related stuff, hit oldgas.com sometime. It's the HAMB for gas junkies :D
     

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