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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mel Walters, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. Mel Walters
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    I have a 1950 Shoebox Ford with a 289 engine. It currently has a T5 transmission in it but no clutch set up. I'm guessing I will have to use a hydraulic clutch set up or would I be better off just to put a C4 in it? Your opinions? The T5 is already mounted in the car and I kinda like shifting I am concerned about the expense of going hydraulic vs a C4.
     
  2. Mark T
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    I think the hydraulic set up will cost less than switching over to a C4, unless you already have the C4 and shifter.

    Early 90's Ford trucks and probably others used a Hydraulic clutch, maybe you can use parts from a junk yard to convert yours.

    Search here on the HAMB, I bet someone has made the conversion.
     
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  3. Check Flat Ernie's T5 tech for setups, pretty well covered ad nauseum in there..
     
  4. THR1LL3R
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    from St. Louis

    3 speed auto vs 5 speed O/D
    national average gal gas $3.26


    ...I switched from a C4 to an Aod in my F1 this year and paid for it in the gas I saved all summer.
    Goodluck
     
  5. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Stick with the T-5 transmission,,it's worth any additional cost. HRP
     
  6. JEM
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    Why in this day and age would someone contemplate a 3-speed automatic in a street car that wasn't an original/period resto?
     
  7. Mercuryv8
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    Fox body mustang T5 all used a cable clutch. You could use one of those or an aftermarket intended for that crowd.

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  8. need louvers ?
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    I have three freakin' C/4s I'd give you if you were on this coast! That would be terrible waste to go backwards. Stick with the T-5 and have a many times more drivable car that gets decent mileage to boot. Not entirely sure why you think you need to go to a hydraulic clutch, but it's not a bad idea. Otherwise adapt the stock pedals to a Mustang type cable clutch.
     
  9. _sir_charles_of_reno
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    If you go on Craigslist 9 out of 10 times you will find someone parting out a fox body mustang or already find someone selling a complete conversion around 500 bucks.
     
  10. JEM
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    A well-done hydraulic clutch is nicer to drive and less exhaust clearance and etc h***les than a cable or linkage.
     
  11. blowby
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    I sure wouldn't let the cost of a hydraulic clutch setup be the determining factor in choosing between an automatic and manual trans.
     
  12. prpmmp
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    I know you already have a T-5,a M5R2 from a 1988 to 1993? ford truck will bolt right up to your motor and you can use the stock hydr throwout bearing,its a 5 speed and the stick is in the middle of the trans which works out well for floor location. just a thought!! Pete
     
  13. free55
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    It's a Ford T5, keep it! And yes, it's cable operated so it's not too expensive. Plus you have TWO extra gears. It'll save gas and the motor.
     
  14. HOTRODPRIMER
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    You don't have to use a hydraulic clutch,all you need is a quadrant attached to your clutch pedal and a cable,,that's what I used in the wagon.

    You can rob the quadrant from a fox body Mustang or buy one from Summit and they also have the cable. HRP
     
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  16. metal man
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    Maybe they want an automatic that isn't gigantic. The Ford AOD is huge and a C4 is quite pe***e, saves some room in the car. I've got a C4 in my '40 and I am very fond of it, although if I were building the car today I would probably use an AOD. I built that car in 1986-87 for peanuts.
     
  17. metal man
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    Mel, I think you answered your own question when you said you like to shift, and you don't need some $600 kit to make it happen.
     

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