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What's involved in putting a s-10 five speed on a Chevy ii engine

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  1. willbierfarms
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    I've got a 3.0 forklift engine for my banger project and a s-10 five speed tranny but no flywheel what flywheel works to do this? Forgive my lack of gm knowledge but I was raised a diehard ford man and this is my first gm powered build.
     
  2. There are a couple choices on flywheels for the 1962-70 Chevy II 153 cubic inch 4 cylinders. For an 8" or 9" clutch the Hollander number is 52 which is GM No. 3790365 (cast 3790366). The same flywheel fitss the 194 cubic inch 6 cylinder.

    Hollander number 455shows a fit for a 10" clutch GM No. 3973452 (some show cast 3791021). The same flywheel fits 6 cylinders and 283/307/327 V-8's in a gazillion applications.

    This information came out of a 39th Edition Hollander. See if the oldest junk yard around you has a 39thor close you can look at.

    Charlie
     
  3. Truckedup
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    On a 153 I used a 30 pound SBC Flywheel with a 10 inch clutch.As mentioned the Chevy V8 or 230-292 6 cylinder clutch housing will bolt to the 153. The S10 T5 will bolt up to the bellhousing but not with the typical 10 spline Chevy disc.
    There's a lot of info on this site about adapting T-5's
     
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  4. willbierfarms
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    After doing some searching on this site I think I have a nv1500 five speed which will be fine. Can't I just use the flywheel and clutch and pressure plate from the 4.3 that donated the tranny?

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  5. rexrogers
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    I plan on using a Chevy II motor and T5 in my sons 27 roadster. I just sent the frame off to the blaster so i am a ways away from motor install yet still need to track one down in fact but always need info on which direction to head. so please post some photos and info of what you end up with.
     
  6. willbierfarms
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    I have three good 3.0 Chevy ii engines in my shed I have the tranny and the gennie deuce frame just gotta finish cutting beans then its time to start the fab work.

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  7. willbierfarms
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    I think so. It's a nice compact unit and will fit well. Shifter is gonna be kinda neat I'm afraid but that's all part of it
     
  8. EZ Cool
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    Cant use the flywheel. 4.3 is externally balanced by a counter weighted flywheel.
     
  9. willbierfarms
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    I had found that out today from a local. I'm gonna grab one off of a 350 and out a ten inch clutch in it and go from there anybody know the ratios on a nv1500? I'm running a quickchange so it doesn't matter that much

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  10. mr.chevrolet
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    i thought those trannies with the built in bellhousings were NV3500s?
     
  11. dago_red
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    Was that 30# flywheel a 153 or 168 tooth?
     
  12. dago_red
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    Rex, the 153s are getting hard to find. Mine came out of a '70 postal jeep.

    Might think about keeping an eye out for one in a boat. AKA mercruiser 2.5; the manifolds are no good for street use, but you can make your own or buy them from forklift salvage outfits.

    The 3.0s (181 CID) are the same block for outside dimensions and bolt up to where a 153 would. They put out quite a bit more HP. They are also a marine/industrial engine, so go looking for them in those areas.
     
  13. 1955IHC
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    Yes sounds like an NV3500 make sure it's from an S10 and not a fullsize as the fullsize has a really low first gear and wider ratios throughout. Google will get the gear ratios as I don't remember them off hand.

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  14. gimpyshotrods
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    The input shaft on the S10 T5 is a little longer than the V8 setup. A spacer, or a little trimming is required. No idea why the small V6/L4 bells are deeper, but it has proved a blessing in adaptation.
     
  15. Hotrodbuilderny
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    Chevy 11's used a special flywheel only if you were using a Chevy 11 bellhousing, with the fork angled down. The clutch disc went in the opposite way with the springs toward the motor.If you use an internally balanced v8 flywheel you can use either one 153 or 168 provided you use the correct bellhousing for the flywheel, and your block is drilled and tapped for three bolt holes,otherwise you would need a bellhousing or scattershield that takes the 55-57 and early truck style starters for the 168
     
  16. Willie,

    If you have a front sump pan kicking around, I have a friend would be happy to trade you!

    Thanks, Mac the Yankee
     
  17. willbierfarms
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    I will look tomorrow I'm pretty sure I have one or two
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  18. EZ Cool
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    I used a 153 tooth v-8 flywheel with this bell housing with no problem. Put the clutch disc in the normal way with the springs facing away from the flywheel.
     

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