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Help ID this iron carcass!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by El_Gato_Scott, Oct 25, 2005.

  1. El_Gato_Scott
    Joined: Aug 29, 2004
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    from So. Tex.

    I work with a guy that has this cowl and frame on his property. It has one door, the windshield posts and the steering column but not much else. I went and looked at it with a buddy who seemed to think it was a model "T" Ford. However, I have gotten conflicting arguments from another buddy who saw the pics. My other friend didn't think it was a Ford because the vent on the cowl didn't sit flush (?). I'm curious if anybody can look at these pics and shed some light on the make of this carc***. I might have a new project on my hands. Thanks in advance for any help.

    Adios,

    Scott
     

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  2. Corn Fed
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    26-27 Ford roadster or touring. Worth digging out of the weeds.
     
  3. Clark
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    Looks like 26/27 T to me.
    Clark
     
  4. 23 bucket-t
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  5. El_Gato_Scott
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    Thanks, guys. I agree...it looks like 26/27 "T". I found a few pics on the internet that showed a 27 "T" dash and it matches what is laying out in the weeds. There are just the two openings, one for an ammeter and the other for a switch/key that operated the ignition and lights There isn't much to start with other than the cowl and the door, but I guess folks have started with less than that. I know there are manufacturers for patch panels for model "T's" and model "A's", but can you get entire doors, decklids, etc..? Anybody working on a 1927 roadster right now...got any pics??

    Adios,

    Scott
     
  6. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    it could be worse, you could have something like this and mistakenly think you have a useable car body
     
  7. Mine isn't much better, mine came with 2 doors and a rusty back panel, but no WS and missing the bottom 6"
     
  8. joeycarpunk
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    from MN,USA

    I've started with worse.
     
  9. El_Gato_Scott
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    El_Gato_Scott
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    from So. Tex.

    Very incouraging words...thanks! How would I be able to tell if it was originally a roadster vs. a touring sedan? It is missing the back quarters and decklid, so I can't tell at first glance. Would I measure the wheel base?

    Adios,

    Scott

     
  10. Squablow
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    I think they're going to have the same wheelbase. You may never know what you started with, but you can make it into a roadster and that's what is important. I've got a '26 Roadster if you need pics for reference.
     
  11. Cyclone Kevin
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    I do as well, have pics, It has the frame still attatched as well=good. There is no difference in the wheel base of the p***enger car line, so you may never know, but what the hey, that ****er would make a great start for a modified:D

    C-ya,
    Kevin


     
  12. El_Gato_Scott
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    from So. Tex.

    I'd dig seeing pics of 26 and/or 27 "T" roadsters if you can post 'em...thanks in advance.

    Adios,

    Scott

     
  13. HRH
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    More than likely it began life as a Convert. The back half is gone becuase of the O so coveted turtle deck sides for the roadsters which is the only part of that car that isnt repopped. Other thing that leads me to that is the substructure that is laying on the ground which would unbolt on the roadsters. You can come by the shop and take a look at the one we have here!
     
  14. draggin ass
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    ****! ill take it! if you think that cant be used then ill use it!

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    s**** metal my ***.... and they were gonna s**** it. god i love gas welding.:D
     
  15. El_Gato_Scott
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    El_Gato_Scott
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    HRH,

    Are you talking about Kevin's "T"? Or do you have a '27 out there? I would like to build a traditional '27 "T" hot rod but I don't know if there is enough there to work with. The bottom 5 to 6 inches will need to be patched since it has been laying on the ground for decades. I doubt the frame can be salvaged. And, like I said before...there is only the cowl, one door, the windshield posts and the steering column. Places like Brookeville don't make decklids, etc?? Help me figure out if I would be wiser to look for a different body to start with. The price on this one is right though...it's FREE.

    Adios,

    Scott
     
  16. ChuckleHead_Al
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    He's talking about Eric's T!
    Go check it out one day Scott..
     
  17. Yeah - your right,you will never be able to use that. Please drop it off to me in Benson next time you p*** through - don't worry about the paperwork on it & I won't even charge you for dropping it off my place!:D Just because I presume you are a fellow Cochise County guy. Am I nice or what! Gary 4T950 Chevy Guy
     
  18. fatassbuick
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    from Kentucky

    Where's Smokey when ya need him...or squarecat, or killer.
     
  19. Two-Gun Bob
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    To tell the difference between a 1926-27 Model T roadster or cut-off touring car, you have to look at the subframe (the structure that the body panels fasten to at the bottom and which is then bolted to the ch***is frame); the cowls are the same. On roadsters and roadster pickups the subframe behind the doors is like a C-shaped channel about 3 1/2 to 4 inches tall with no cut-outs along its top edge. It also kicks out toward the back where the rear wheel panel is on the turtledeck so that it matches the contour of the turtledeck (wheel wells are actually convex instead of concave like you would expect). On a touring car, the subframe is shaped quite differently and is shorter vertically. It also has a kind of cut-out along the top where the rear doors would be. Since the wheel wells on the touring car are flat, the subframe does not have any bends in it and it goes straight back to the rear subframe crossmember. Look at a clear picture of a '26-27 roadster and you will see the subframe since it is visible from the outside of the car (under the turtledeck).
    Hope this is understandable and helps!
     

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