A tractor carb on a flatty???

Alright folks, I got a question here. I have a 1950 Ford with the 239 flatty V8. I want to put 2 2BBL carbs on it. Strombergs, although super reliable, are really expensive. Holley 94s are expensive and are NOT reliable. A buddy of mine tells me that old Ford tractors (8N) use a 2 BBL carb that should work but he didn't know a part number. I have found some Motorcraft 2100 carbs but they are for a 302 and don't look at all like they would fit. Has anyone ever heard of tractor carbs being used on a flatty and if so, what model or part number am I lookin fer?

 

The 8n uses a updraft. Its not really meant to be used like a car carburetor so i doubt that it would work.

 

Yeah, I looked at specs on 8N so I don't think that's what he meant. The updraft will definitely not work. Whole different concept. Did Ford make a gas powered tractor in that era?

 

What JYK said.

 

This is one of those situations where you just have to pay to play. And who says the 94 is not reliable. Ford used them for 30 years, worked fine for them. Save your pennies and put a quality carb on top of your flathead that you will be happy with for many years to come.

 

I think I would just save some money and buy a good rebuilt 97. Or watch Craig's list or that auction site. Buy a old one and rebuild it yourself. It would probably be more of a pain in the ass trying to get something to work that is not made for it.

 

yup, agreed. pay up

 

You are partly right and semi wrong.
The tractor you think/talks about looks like a 8N, but runs a Flathead with a 2 BLL. Same sheetmetal, same gearbox, same rearend, but different tractor!

The engine is basicly a 85hp truck engine with a high tourqe/low performance cam. And the carb of the truck.
Nothing special about it, except that it's 2bll.

There are so many other carbs avalible that i would prefere, before the truck carb. But it does work. I works on a 35 fire engine with a nice engine in, but that carb is running so nice, and we just took it apart and did some cleaning and a new gasket under the lid. And the engine was never rebuilt.

But the 94 or 97 ain't unreliable, unless it was neglected or misstreated. And for power up, go for more then one.

 

I'm gonna put 2 on it. I already have the Offy intake to do it. I just gotta shovel out the ass load of money required for such things as Stomberg carbs.

 

I have a 2100 holley on my 53 Customline it works really well, kit was available at Napa.Bolts right to the three bolt flange where Stromberg would go.
Tony

 

As far as I am aware:

The Ford 8N was a four cylinder with an updraft carb (Marvel/Schebler TSX-33, and TSX-241).

A company in Illinois, sometime around 1947~49 offered a 6-cylinder Ford truck conversion with a Holley single barrel updraft carb.

Another company began a V-8 conversion, with the stock Ford truck V-8 about the same time. This engine used the stock Holley 94 used on the truck V-8. This was called a "Funk Conversion". Few were made.

Carter made some WCD two-barrel carbs with the three-bolt pattern.

And of course there are the Stromberg type EE-1, and Holley type AA-1 and 2100 carbs.

Lots to choose from. Pick the one you like the best. Personally, if a "numbers-matching show car" I would use the stock Holley; for all other uses I would use a Carter.

Jon.

 

Yes, but only when plowing the north 40.

 

Ok new question then. Speedway sells a Stromberg "copy" called the Speedy's 9 Super 7. They are 299 each which is still cheaper than any Stromberg I've found. Have any of y'all used these?

 

Pick up 3 or 4 Stromberg cores at the next swapmeet, and use the parts with two rebuild kits to get two good running carbs. Done.

Rich

 

The first of the "NEW" Strombergs are well worth the price; Originally around $400 each, but i think they have been going for a bit less.
I'm using a pair of them on my Flatmotor, and the results are very well worth the price. Just remember to use no more than 3 psi fuel pressure, just as with the originals.

4TTRUK

 

The Stromberg cores I see for sale are usually 75 to 125. Multiply that by 2 or 3 plus the cost carb kits and 299 doesn't look too bad.

 

I rarely find any Stromberg 97 cores at the swap meet, certainly not for $75. The Ford 8BA 94 carbs are pretty good and those seem to be around, if you're only using two, they should fit. The '97 is only really necessary if you run three, with three, there's not room for 94 carbs. Unless your intake has the two carbs right next to each other.

$300 each for brand new seems like a good price if they're good carbs, never personally had one though.

 

Still baffled by the "94's not reliable" comment.

Never had a problem with them and I can rebuild them with half my brain tied behind my back. Kits are easy to find and under 20 bux.

If I can do it that way someone with a full brain should be able to make them work dependably.........